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I find it disgusting enough when Labour use the 'wasted vote' argument against anyone planning to do other than support the Red Tories/Blue Tories Punch & Judy show, what with Labour having themselves been a fringe party not so very long ago. But for the Lib Dems to start parroting it against voting for anyone smaller than themselves is just staggering. Between this and Nick Klegg, sorry, Clegg buying into the public sector cuts bidding war rather than asking the questions so many people now want asked about when the bankers will be giving our bloody money back, I'm increasingly wondering whether to bother voting Lib Dem next General Election after all. Except under Wee Charlie Kennedy (please come back, Charlie) it's seldom been so much that I actually like their policies as a case of "when faced with a choice of evils, I pick the one I've not tried yet" (good old Mae West). The more indistinguishable they become from the other two (still this obsession with chasing the centre ground, rather than offering voters anything like a real choice), the less that justification holds. Obviously at national level the Green manifesto normally has more holes than a fair-trade organic basket, but I'm still tempted to vote for them now out of sheer spite.

Date: 2009-09-22 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
I'm not sure when I finally lost it with them. Was it their eve-of-poll claiming I planned to privatise the NHS (easy to do from a seat on a provincial District Council I'm sure, even if I wanted to) or was it when they claimed the police were investigating me for issuing a fake leaflet (that I had never even seen, and was never asked about, so funny old investigation, that). The policies are way down the list, I should have responded that they planned to abolish the NHS and spend it all on homeopathy, but in Oxford that might have won them votes... as it was they mostly ran their elections as a single-issue campaign against mobile phone masts.

Date: 2009-09-22 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Is this Lib Dems or Greens?

Date: 2009-09-22 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
Greens. Lib Dems I only hate when they're doing their usual passive-aggressive act of being the dirtiest political fighters then trying to polish their halo when anyone does it back to them - the "wasted vote" is a classic, they employ the best (read worst) barchart geeks in the business. "How to Lie With Statistics" must be required reading for the disciples of Rennard. Otherwise I take them as I find them, because they're so different as individuals - indeed the concept of them being a party at all is a bit odd, it's like having a church for agnostics.

Date: 2009-09-22 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know the Lib Dems have been involved with some really nasty leaflets in various local elections - between which and their uselessness as stewards of Islington, this is why I don't vote for them in locals. But I like that looseness as a party, gets things a little further away from the party centralisation which has gradually wrecked British politics since Parliament's heyday.

Date: 2009-09-22 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
By heyday, you do of course mean when it was elected by property-owning males?

Date: 2009-09-22 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Not really, given it runs at least to the point where Chamberlain was forced out by Leo Amery et al.

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