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It's a bit close out there, isn't it? Feels like walking through soup. A storm would be very welcome.

[livejournal.com profile] guntrip's post reminds me of one of my two brilliant legal innovations from last night*. Ticket touting is, so far as I understand, illegal. Non-online ticket touts normally stand within earshot of the venue security, certainly near to the venue. So why don't the police arrest them? The ones I saw last night were on Tottenham Court Road, an area where they can be found almost every night, in the heart of the heavily-policed West End. They're fairly indiscriminate in their solicitations. One plainclothes officer with a bit of uniformed backup around the corner, and you're done. Why isn't it happening?

*The other was that anyone walking down Oxford Street texting, and looking at their phone rather than the people around them, should have their thumbs chopped off.

Date: 2004-07-16 07:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
It's very very close in Cla'am Junction. Here is M. Fish's explanation for the poor summer. He says it's nothing to do with Global Warming, says he'll explain why it's nothing to do with Global Warming, then fails to even mention why it's nothing to do with Global Warming.

Global Warming sucks big poo. Yesterday a man was on the interweb saying how all of our coastal cities are set for c#nt creek in the near future, because of melting ice caps. I thought, "oh yeah. Another end-is-nigh crackpot." It turns he was an actual leading, well-respected scientist type bloke.

Date: 2004-07-16 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Though it is worth bearing in mind that leading, well-respected scientist blokes used to say that any human travelling faster than 30mph would have the skin ripped from their body by the speed.

(Not that I don't believe in global warming, but it's always worth bearing in mind how much of what we 'know' will turn out to be nonsense)

Date: 2004-07-16 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
Those well-respected scientists lived in an age where science was marginally less trusted than the church.

This sciencestist has loads of data from arctic cores to back up his theory that the amount of CO2 in the atmos has a direct bearing on the historical warmth of the globe. We are shortly about to have the most CO2 we have ever had since there has been an ice-cap. and I live by the rive-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-er.

Date: 2004-07-16 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
Global warming? Poppycock! (http://www.dangly.co.uk/ABD/poppycock.pdf)

Date: 2004-07-16 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
Don't trust men with beards! They've got something to hide. Look at h Shipman.

Date: 2004-07-16 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
19th century? I think science was pretty much level with the Nazarene's boys by then, old chap.
Like I say, I suspect this particular scientish probably is right, at least as far as regards the amount of CO2. What will actually happen then...I've seen half a dozen scenarios. Whatever does happen you'll have approximately 15% of scientists looking smug and the rest claiming they never said that, they were quoted out of context &c. Unless of course all six scenarios are wrong.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
'ere! Less of the 'old', old chap!

Them C19 sciencetists that claimed yer eyeballs (or whatever) would explode when travelling above 30mph were clearly wrong by all the accepted standards of the day, seeing as Newton had already established that acceleration and not motion would be the thing that carried any destructive force. Also, it is quite quite possible that humans would have been known to travel at >30mph by that point, using nothing more than a sledge and hill or a quite good horse.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Nor was there any compelling medical evidence whatsoever that masturbation was dangerous in the early-to-mid twentieth century, but plenty of Respected Scientists still peddled that idea.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
that was only to try to keep them in with the church, while they peddled ye olde evolutionary theory, though.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Sometimes, maybe. Other times it was influenced by Eastern thinking. And I think it's important to bear in mind that most of them seem genuinely to have believed it - they weren't lying for advantage.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
alex, i was being facetious.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I have heard far dafter theories advanced in all seriousness in debates on this topic. Also, your icon is very deadpan.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
you think? I thought it was quite cheery myself. Nice and bright considering its a Molko rip-off. Maybe slightly too abstract for silliness though.

"its a Molko rip-off"

Date: 2004-07-16 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Beyond even Freudian and into the realms of bizarre alternities...

"Comes across all shy and coy, just another abstract painter".

Re: "its a Molko rip-off"

Date: 2004-07-16 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
lolol. sho1te. you know i meant Rothko.
It's Friday
I'm tired
I'm looking forward to my CCP

Date: 2004-07-16 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com
Well, yes, it's quite clearly you, in a cheongsam, smiling as you dance to Dude Looks Like a Lady...

Date: 2004-07-16 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com
Which also reminds me that if I blowdry my hair incorrectly ATM, I end up with Brain hair. Ooops.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
lol - i don't even LIKE placebo. must be a programming error somewhere in my brain.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
I think the 'masturbation is harmful' brigade had quite a lot in common with the '35mph = gruesome organ failure' brigade, in that only fools believed them. In fact I would question whether peddlers of either theory could be said to have been well-respected sceincetists of their day.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Hindsight's a wonderful thing. Sure, we can now classify anyone who believed them as 'fools'. At the time...well, he may not be a scientist but Sir Robert Baden-Powell, O.M., G.C.M.G., G.C.V.O., K.C.B., Lord Baden-Powell of Gilwell was promoting the idea, and he certainly seems to have been fairly well respected judging by that alias.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
If I was there (and I wasn't, oldster fans) I would have said, "Shut yer gob Lord Baden-Powell O.M., G.C.M.G., G.C.V.O., K.C.B! You ain't no sciencetists! You is merely a Victorian moraliser, who may retain popular appeal with sympathisers of Victorian morals, but your time is over, old timer. The kids are alright, and they know where it's at", and then I would have punched his silly face. Did he have a beard? I bet he did, didn't he?

Date: 2004-07-16 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
He is normally pictured with 'tache but no beard, I believe.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
quite correct our Baz. I used to work for the Scouts. Lots of hairy knees there, marvellous.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
"If you misuse your parts when you are a boy, they simply will not work when you have need of them as a man."

Baden-Powell there, marvelloustw@t.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
See! He's not to be trusted!

NB I was in the cubs and then the sea-scouts, and they have had to constantly re-write the rules cause old Lord BP's ideas have fallen so farther and farther grace ever since his demise.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
Man! My written English is at a new low today. Sorry. And have a good weekend everybody. Time for a beer booze in my garden.

Date: 2004-07-16 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
It is also worth bearing in mind that without sciencematists, we wouldn't be able to travel faster than 30mph.

Date: 2004-07-16 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Quite so. This ties in to my point above - the fvckers can't even agree with each other.

Date: 2004-07-16 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
Ha ha ha from my top floor flat, on a hill, in the furthest town from the coast in the entire country :)

Date: 2004-07-16 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
Its warm here too, but more CCP warm than thunder and lightning warm. I don't mind touts so long as they sell REAL tickets. Its the ones who sell the forgeries that I can't stand.

Date: 2004-07-16 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
But they're profiteering without providing a useful service, because if they hadn't bought all the sodding tickets the events wouldn't be sold out!

Date: 2004-07-16 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
well, yes i suppose. belfast gigs don't tend to suffer from this too much :S

Date: 2004-07-16 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thermaland.livejournal.com
But Alex, where do you think the touts get their tickets from?

Date: 2004-07-16 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I had always presumed that they buy them in bulk as soon as they go on sale.

Date: 2004-07-16 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
(and obviously they'll often still be buying on the night)

Date: 2004-07-19 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guntrip.livejournal.com
The problem I have is that, while recently there have been various innovations against touting [Glastonbury and Radiohead jump to mind] with some measure of success, Mean Fiddler still do fuck all about it. It winds me up, because I didn't have £100 for the 3 weeks the tickets were sale, and now it's damn near impossible to find one for under £150-200..

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