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Alex ([personal profile] alexsarll) wrote2010-02-05 10:56 am

bands, pens, book

The new Tindersticks album has a track called 'Peanuts'. "I know you love peanuts, I don't care that much, but I love you, so I love peanuts too", sings whichever underrated female singer they've got duetting with Stuart now (one downside of Spotify is that it never tells you these things). But when Stuart sings "I still love peanuts" back in that distinctive slur, it really doesn't sound like he's saying 'peanuts'. Any suspicion that this might be mere mischance is squashed on the next track when he's definitely singing "she rode me like a pony". I love that a band so elegantly heartworn can also be so thoroughly puerile.

First gig of the decade last night (unless you count that noisy mob everyone fled after the speakers at Bright Club, which I'd prefer not to). And it was David Devant & his Spirit Wife, which should have been a good kick-off but...well, it was good. It just wasn't great. But then nobody can be as good as them at their best every show, can they? Special mention to Foz? for an excellent jacket.

Went to [livejournal.com profile] jamesward's Stationery Club beforehand - or should I say, 'Hashtag Stationery Club'. The way Twitterers retain the @ in conversation feels oddly formal, like something from a couple of hundred years ago when you would always use the 'Miss' or 'Mr' before a name. And I felt strangely old-fashioned being introduced as someone from the real world, just because Twitter is about the only piece of online tomfoolery where I don't have a presence. The pen selected as Stationery Club's first topic was not entirely to my taste, but the advantage over a book club is that you can turn up and find this out with a minute's loan of someone else's, whereas with a book you usually have to invest at least an hour to convincingly justify the suspicion that it's not for you.

Last year, the Guardian ran an article asking why so few novels deal with work. I thought at the time it was asinine (just to pick one, possibly obscure example - Bridget Jones' Diary?) but having now read Matthew de Abaitua's 2007 The Red Men, it seems doubly so. Of course, it doesn't matter that de Abaitua can write better than any average Booker shortlist could if they all networked their brains and collaborated, because he excludes himself from 'literary' consideration by using science fiction elements (and not doing it in a dumb, 'this is not SF' way, which you can get away with). Plus a dose of Gnosticism, and elements of the techno-thriller. But how else are you meant to address the issue? If you just try to realistically address the office, you get The Office, a dull reflection, even more boring than the original and no more illuminating. When so many people don't even realise how work is taking over their lives, distorting their personalities, how do you address that without making the issue strange and thus noticeable again? So de Abaitua externalises the element of the personality which falls for all the corporate lines - the driven side with no time for family - as the 'red men' of the title, uploaded simulations of employees which turn on their originals if they feel the original is slacking by wanting to do things like kick back and enjoy the fruits of success. Which can hijack any electrical equipment to bug their lazy partners, because some people don't think it's crazily dystopian enough that they're being bugged with official business on the Blackberry, computer and 'phone when they're not in office hours. And so forth. It's not a perfect book - the resolution is so pat it could almost be Jay MacInerney - but as a vision of a very near future London (or rather, the London of a couple of years ago given a couple of twists - the North London Line hasn't even become the Overground yet), it's not bad. And as a novel of work, it's hard to beat.

[identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
Twitter is about the only piece of online tomfoolery where I don't have a presence.

Careful now.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I did pause after saying that at Stationery Club in case anyone wished to inform me otherwise.

[identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
You did not mention the awesome lady who worked out you were evil within 10mins.

I didn't realise that was your first gig of the decade. Foz fell over afterwards. Poor Foz.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
Evil, moi?

Poor Foz?. But then he did look several times during the show as though he might fall over. Or possibly just explode.

[identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
why does foz have a ?

Explosions would have been messy...

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
There were various explanations for why he was thus, but I do not recall any of them now. Even last night, you may have noticed that Vessel does tend to refer to him as 'Foz Question Mark' onstage...

[identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
oh my life - your Twitter persona and DRUNKHULK would be BEST FRIEND

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not a patch on "HULK SMASH FREDDIE PRINZE JR!"

[identity profile] sbp.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Microserfs. jPod.

Stross' Laundry novels are about a bloke in quite an unusual government workplace, but include scheming about expenses and cross-evaluation and powerpoint presentations in which you lose your soul.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Stross is dead right about Powerpoint. I imagine that the imbecile writer might try to exclude those from consideration because if you admit them then essentially you've got the whole spy genre snuck in (except eg The 39 Steps where it's mistaken identity rather than a career). And then you have anything about soldiers following on too...but this all stems from a failure of categorisation on her part in the first place. She meant to say, 'everyday office jobs'. Even then, she is obviously wrong - just if we stick with Stross you've still got Halting State, one of two books I read in 2008 with a forensic accountant protagonist.

[identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Also - every Russian book I've read that was written in the last 20 years at least always yacks on about tedious normal office jobs - but cos it's the Russian provinces it's more interesting.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Nor is it a new interest for their novels when you consider Oblomov. I suppose they were a bit ahead of the rest of us in realising the ubiquity of busywork and futile, self-sustaining bureaucracies.

[identity profile] miss-newham.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's Mary Margaret O'Hara!

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? Blimey. But it still doesn't sound like 'peanuts'.

[identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The novels and work thing is because most people with book deals have no idea what human beings do all day in an office - seriously - the version of me in the kiss and tell is hilarious, when he described what I did for a living I was all like 'Oh my God, you have no idea, do you?'

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Then again, how many of us have any real idea what each other do all day in an office? I may know their job titles, but I'm pretty vague as to what a lot of my best friends actually do.

[identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, I'm looking for a writer that makes Enid Blyton seem like Michael Houllebecq.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Alexander McCall Smith.

[identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
You are correct! *applause*

[identity profile] fivelongdays.livejournal.com 2010-02-05 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose this is the obvious chance to pimp - yet again! - "Then We Came To The End" by Joshua Ferris. I loved it, even if it may be somewhat lowbrow. Erm, or summat.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
My mum quite enjoyed that, but somehow I wasn't tempted. It just looked too much like the real thing - my mum, after all, is retired.

[identity profile] oneofthose.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Obscure but probably not underrated. That's the great Mary Margaret O'Hara responsible for one of my desert island discs and the subject of unadulterated worship by pretty much every music critic of the late 80s/early 90s. She never made another album. Joe Boyd was talking about a remastered version a few years back but I guessed she nixed it.


[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Has she made many other guest appearances? Quite a coup if not!

[identity profile] oneofthose.livejournal.com 2010-02-06 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
For someone so reluctant to record her own records or play proper gigs she's quite promiscuous when it comes to other people's. The most famous being Morrissey's November Spawned A Monster. She also does stuff with a few local Canadian bands and seems to have made her career appearing on tribute and themed compilation albums.

When she played at the Harry Smith tribute in London a few years back a fan shouted, "We missed you Mary!" She blanched then said, without any malice, "Well, I didn't miss you."

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2010-02-07 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Thinking back, when Green Gartside did the Kylie guest spot, that was after he'd been away for ages too, wasn't it? And I suppose there's Kevin Shields too, who has been happy to join other bands so long as people are happy to overlook the absence of new material from his own - even when the other band in question is Primal sodding Scream. Less pressure, I suppose.