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You know how sometimes a given venue will have everything you want to see for a few months, and then nothing? I remember when I was at the Windmill most weeks, and yet I don't think I'd been there this year until Saturday. And this having been tempted by Friday's line-up too, but two nights in a row was not going to happen and I knew more people in Saturday's line-up than Friday's, so sorry [livejournal.com profile] rhodri. I know [livejournal.com profile] augstone managed it, but he's an American, dammit. Anyway, Saturday.I always forget about Maps except when they're running their advent calendar, but they (he?) have pretty good taste. First off, [livejournal.com profile] steve586's solo debut. The first track I assume to be the forthcoming solo single, the last is 586's 'We Got Bored' (so much better yelped live than it was on record), but in between it's versions of 18 Carat songs; as is often the way with shows of this kind, the songs work better the more distinct they sound from the band versions, and I'm not just saying that because the iPhone playing the band version of 'Ride The Blue Tiger' as a backing track was interrupted by a voicemail alert (the perils of convergence). Then MJ Hibbett, endearing as ever, though I miss the beginning of his set because I'm hanging with the smokers and a dog, followed by White Witches, who reprise their excellent cover of 'Boys Keep Swinging'. Next up, one of the these days obligatory all-star bands, doing festive covers. And yes, it's not quite December yet, and I'm normally pretty hardline about that, but I'm not totally inflexible and they are pretty good, especially the massed ranks of the evening's acts singing 'Do They Know It's Christmas?' (Rory gets the Bono line). Finally (for me), Pagan Wanderer Lu. I've seen him before and thought he was very good, then completely failed to keep up with him for some reason. It's one man, a laptop, a guitar and the truth, and there's a lot of that about these days; I can't really explain why he's ahead of the back so will instead just note that most of his set is on Spotify.
Headliners Revere sound quite good from their Myspace, good enough that I half-regret not staying for them, but I was flagging and not best placed to get the most out of a new band, and the quantum computing book which had been annoying me on the journey down was now calling to me*. Of course, it turned out to be the kind of flagging where you get home and can't sleep and end up watching iPlayer and tapes until your eyes hurt and you have to force yourself to sleep.
Speaking of which, I watched some 'classic' Doctor Who this weekend - Frontios. I'd never seen it before, but from the Target novelisation, I liked it. In the far future, further than the TARDIS should travel, a fragile human colony has survived the death of Earth - barely. Their failure-proof machines, failed. They cling to life on the planet Frontios, but the soil of the planet is sucking colonists to their deaths...this was a dark and stirring vision.
Except on TV George from Drop the Dead Donkey is the colony's charismatic centrepiece, the sets are appalling and the monsters are worse. The direction's a mess - even scenes which could work on a school stage (Turlough's decision whether to head underground) are taken from the wrong angle and rushed. The whole thing makes you see why Rusty was so scared of alien planets at first, because if they look wrong enough, it undermines the whole enterprise. The 'wobbly set' thing is a cliche, but when it gets bad enough, in the most damaging ways, it does torpedo a story. Or at least, it does unless the story is rock solid, and while writer Christopher Bidmead was responsible for the brilliant Logopolis/Castrovalva pairing, here he seems to have been having quite the off-day.
The (badly) animated new David Tennant story, 'Dreamland', also has critters sucking humans down into the ground, this time in the course of a Roswell story which, as we've come to expect from Phil Ford, goes over ground Who has already covered, but less well. I mention it here chiefly because I wasn't aware it existed until a Facebook friend mentioned it, so some of you might also have been in the dark. Georgia Moffett also features, but not as Jenny. I don't know why her name goes ahead of the credits and Tim Howar (as equally-featured male pseudo-companion for the story) doesn't.

Yesterday [livejournal.com profile] whizzerandchips was in town so we all went to the pub, but I'll leave the full reports on that to people who got pictures of the plasticine genitalia.

*Part of the problem could well have been the reading environment. Opposite me sat a man muttering to himself (or rather, an invisible presence in the middle distance) in what sounded like heavily-accented French. On his lap, a vinyl copy of the Shaft soundtrack in a carrier bag, held bolt upright; the bag is occasionally rolled down and then up again, as if in flirtation,

Date: 2009-11-30 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elethe.livejournal.com
I too was curious as to why Tim Howar/Jimmy was not credited - but of course he is not Doctor Who royalty, nor as far as I know did he go out with David Tennant.

Date: 2009-11-30 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I think they've just got into the habit of Doctor Plus Female Companion (also some hangers-on, possibly male). IIRC Barrowman did get a pre-credit name at some point, but then he has his spin-off (fnarr fnarr).

Date: 2009-11-30 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elethe.livejournal.com
Yes - he isn't a girl was the other reason. It seems stupid to me. I think Doctor Who was always best with both a male and female companion - or even more than two companions.

Date: 2009-11-30 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
It's hard to be sure on that last point, because it only really happened twice - once in the Troughton era when we're so terribly short of surviving episodes, and once when one of the three was that arsewit Adric. Two companions was good, it's true - but I think it would unbalance the new episode format to do it again nowadays.

Date: 2009-11-30 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elethe.livejournal.com
Well, arguably Susan, Barbara and Ian counted as three. And Unit era you had all of UNIT as well as Liz/Jo/Sarah Jane. Also a few with Nyssa/Tegan/Turlough before Nyssa left. And possibly Jack, Rose and Mickey (granted there were very few with all of them in it).

I think it only unbalances the new format if they keep going with the "ooh she's so in love with him/ooh she isn't in love with him at all" dynamic and left it for a while.

Date: 2009-11-30 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Why did I forget the starting line-up? Or indeed, the second line-up when Vicki replaced Susan? Because I have had only one cup of tea, I presume. Mea culpa.

I always thought of UNIT as a subtly different set-up, though. Albeit one I'm glad they seem to be getting back to, by having returning allies who are nonetheless not obliged to be there every week and given something to do. Which is what I mean by 'unbalancing', really. The love thing was boring, but is avoidable - however, every companion in an episode is going to have to be given a Moment. And that makes for a bit too much of the episode tied up by the regular cast - whereas before, someone could be absent for one episode because they got to shine somewhere in the other three parts of the story.

Date: 2009-11-30 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xandratheblue.livejournal.com
Oh dear lord, Dreamland is gawdawful! It wasn't just the writing which was offensively bad, but the animation as well. It was sub-2003 standard digi-mation without any charm or wit to back it up. Bad animation with charm is defendanble, bad writing with decent animation less so, but that holy grail of charmless, poor animation with charmless, poor writing? Oooh, bad. As for Georgina Moffat's position, I guess she's a celebrity now...sort of. Apparently she gets her pictures in the gossip rags now she's dating Tennant.

But the Flash Dr a few years back(voiced by Richard E. Grant)was at least beautifully animated (for flash), even if the story was a bit pedestrian at points. I mainly remember having a mild crush of the female black lead/psyudo companion. Man, I want to go watch that Flash right now, especially now I'm not trying to watch it on dial-up ¬_¬

Date: 2009-11-30 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Scream of the Shalka was glorious. I mean, at the time it was good just to have something like TV Who, but even with hindsight and a new blockbuster show, it was a valid alternate direction. Even if they probably couldn't have persevered with that as a parallel Doctor, they should at least have learned some lessons as to animation style.
I liked the story of that - it was yer basic alien invasion yarn, but that's all you need when you're introducing a new Doctor, especially when there was so much other stuff to hold the interest (such as him claiming he only came to Earth for the wine, and the gay robot Master locked in the TARDIS).

Date: 2009-11-30 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xandratheblue.livejournal.com
I'm re-watching it right now, instead of showering/making myself socially acceptable. I think it was the right choice.

Also helps that Richard E Grant's Doctor is very sexy and that he pulls of "irellivant cheeky chappie" as well as "cold-hearted person who probably has a heart of gold" very well.

Date: 2009-11-30 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Oh, is it still online? I may do likewise...

Both of REG's Doctors were pretty sexy, even if the other one totally knew it.

Date: 2009-11-30 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I love the Classic section of that site. See also:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/ebooks/index.shtml
Some of those used to go for a hundred quid secondhand, and now they're free to all.

Date: 2009-11-30 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny-vertigen.livejournal.com
I've always wanted to see Frontios as (like yourself) I enjoyed the Target book back in the day. Never quite got around to it though, has it came on on DVD? Seems a strange choice if it has....

Date: 2009-11-30 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Not AFAIK; I've got pretty much all of the complete stories on VHS from UK Gold, and a couple of tapes' worth of those in London. You're welcome to borrow it if you have a VCR, though the quality's not great.

Date: 2009-11-30 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny-vertigen.livejournal.com
Ta, but I can probably download it if I've a mind to. Still working my way through the last wad of Who DVD's I picked anyhoo.

Date: 2009-11-30 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] augstone.livejournal.com
but he's an American, dammit.

awesome. i hope this catches on.

Date: 2009-11-30 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I was just sorry I couldn't quite think where else to take the sentence after that.

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