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You'd think lifting the excommunication of a Holocaust-denier would keep everyone's favourite 'ex-'Nazi Pope happy for a while, but there's no stopping this boy: the Catholic Church has just reintroduced indulgences! "You cannot buy one — the church outlawed the sale of indulgences in 1567 — but charitable contributions, combined with other acts, can help you earn one." Including donations to Church-run charities, presumably. Whose funds can then eg help the priests buy lube for the choirboys - it's the gift that keeps on giving!

Date: 2009-02-12 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiny-tear.livejournal.com
The return of indulgences began with Pope John Paul II, who authorized bishops to offer them in 2000 as part of the celebration of the church’s third millennium.

I remember this... There was some church where if you went through a door in 2000 you would get a plenary indulgence... So I won't have to worry about any of my sins prior to 2000
;-)

ahh good ol'catholicism... live a life of sin, repent at deathbed and all is fine...

Date: 2009-02-12 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Are you not thinking of the plot of Kevin Smith's Dogma there?

Although I did accidentally get absolved of all my sins in 2002 by going into the Pantheon in Rome. Didn't realise 'til the next day when I was sat opposite, but there was a plaque above the door saying so, which was hundreds of years old but if it's still there and saying that, it's still armed. I was pretty annoyed by that, I'd been working so hard on my collection.

Date: 2009-02-12 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiny-tear.livejournal.com
heehee nope, not Dogma, Westminster Cathedral or whichever one the Catholic one is...
:-)

I think it just means you have to work harder now since 2002...

(and in that case as I have been to the Pantheon in 1998, I guess the Westminster one only took away a couple of years as the rest had been liften in 98 then)

Date: 2009-02-12 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Was that when they had the massive great cross out front of Westminster Cathedral? I used to sit on the base of that and read. Ah, Westminster Cathedral, where the Stations of the Cross were carved by a man who fucked his sister, children and dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Gill#Controversies).

Date: 2009-02-12 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiny-tear.livejournal.com
Probably, it was when I had just moved to London

Date: 2009-02-12 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stu-n.livejournal.com
I love the phrase 'experimental connection with his dog'. It's got a steampunk ring to it.

Date: 2009-02-13 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yes! Or the implication that he was hanging around with Garth Ennis' Dogwelder.

Date: 2009-02-13 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stu-n.livejournal.com
Heh heh heh. Bueno.

Date: 2009-02-12 12:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nja.livejournal.com
I won't use the Gill Sans font for that reason.

Here's some more news about Ratzo's new Nazi chums.

Date: 2009-02-13 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Such charmers!

I don't personally boycott Gill on account of his proclivities - given I'm a fan of de Sade and Anais Nin, it would seem somewhat hypocritical. But crucially, I'm not a church with an allegedly hard line on such behaviour.

Date: 2009-02-12 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suicideally.livejournal.com
I don't think this is a reintroduction, Chris's grandparents received an indulgence a few years ago on their 60th wedding anniversary, as their priest went to Rome shortly before and arranged it for them.

Date: 2009-02-12 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Surely the mere fact of staying married that long should buy you some leeway in and of itself!

Date: 2009-02-12 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suicideally.livejournal.com
It does mean Chris doesn't have to practise to get into heaven, though - as long as his grandparents pray for him it'll be fine as they are promised "special favours in heaven".
Edited Date: 2009-02-12 11:49 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-02-13 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
That sounds so much better than the nugatory perks of First Class on the railways or aeroplanes.
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Date: 2009-02-13 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Did I ever tell you about the girl I used to know who would have lesbian SM on Tuesdays and confess on Thursdays, with the wallowing in guilt on Wednesdays as a crucial part of the fun?
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Date: 2009-02-13 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Clearly he was given the boot because his virginity reminded the parish priest of an embarrassing inability to perform.

Date: 2009-02-12 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renegadechic.livejournal.com
alex, if you take up a career as a priest, and push the indulgences to its limits then i will come to church every week. also, if you get the choir to see plenty of sb/bp-esque tunes. a choir singing some gary glitter would make me So Happy

Date: 2009-02-13 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
If a priesthood falls into my lap, so to speak, then I would happily take this course, although personally I reckon choral Depeche Mode would work better.
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Date: 2009-02-13 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
You're so predictable, and I mean that in a good way.

Date: 2009-02-12 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksta.livejournal.com
oh ffs. unbelievable.

Date: 2009-02-12 06:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-02-12 08:39 pm (UTC)

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