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Alex ([personal profile] alexsarll) wrote2008-07-05 07:47 pm
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Journey's End

Well, that did pretty much everything I was hoping it wouldn't - and yet still somehow managed to be rather wonderful. Rusty - in your own maddeningly inconsistent way, you were brilliant.

[identity profile] azureskies.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I'm not quite sure how he managed to do :

- Faking out the regeneration
- The splitting-off-and-going-to-a-parallel-universe
- Donna being the Doctor
- The kiss

... and still have it be absolutely spot on.

That confused me immensely. But I absolutely loved it. And got teary at the final Bernard Cribbins scene.

[identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't even, I was blubbing at Bernard Cribbins too.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
Anyone who was not blubbing at that is an inhuman beast who has most likely been infected with the Dalek Factor.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
There were still bits I could have done without - the flashback montages, for starters, and Tennant-does-Tate - but yes.

And, and this one has only just come to me - the Shadow Proclamation bit went nowhere! Weren't they meant to be turning up with all the armies of the universe? Probably stuck in the space-office doing paperwork, I suppose, it's political correctness gone mad...

[identity profile] miss-sheldon.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought they might be mentioned too. And the medusa cascade being one second out of sync wasn't mentioned again either. But I thought it was brilliant.

[identity profile] invadergaz.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
iirc, there was reference to the anomaly surrounding the place making it the right staging area for Davros' plan. But it went online at about 3 am, so I was a bit to exhausted to be paying too much attention.

[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if that's not a little bit of set-up for someone to pick up if they want - maybe even something else for the Doctor to be on the run from, if they wanted to go down that route.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
We've still not seen why Elizabeth I is mad at the Doctor either, have we? There's spare set-up a-plenty!

[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think on diggerdydum tomorrow I might do an RTD danglers thread. Though perhaps with a more pleasant title.

[identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Like you there were lots of fun bits, let down by an end that made me want to stab things. But then its a Rusty season finale, it was always going to happen like that.

Bernard Cribbins was, as always, great. Davros and the Daleks were brilliant (I'm sure he'll turn up again, hopefully with Caan gibbering over his shoulder), and I'm rather looking forward to the Victorian Cybermen.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
But the end didn't even make me want to stab things! I was so impressed that he set it up so we were expecting him to kill Donna and then managed to do something far, far worse and turn her back into Catherine Tate.

Davros was excellent, and I would be happy to see him again - but without the Daleks this time, please. As the Reality Bomb shows, he has so much more to offer. The loon.

Cybermen...hmmm. The alternate reality Cybermen were consistently shit, and after the way they got bitchslapped by the Daleks, I'm not sure they're even a remotely credible threat anymore. If this is a handful who managed to get through during this season's reality storm, well that makes a sort of sense but I'd much rather the Mondas lads came back. Then again, they would have had to have a bad redesign if so...

[identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
It was Rose getting her own pet Doctor that really annoyed me. Possibly because I grew to loathe the character over the end of her run, and after she left. I didn't like Donna being mindwiped, but I can live with it.

I'm hoping its the Mondas lot too, but by the looks of it it won't be. If they hadn't made the Daleks ridiculously overpowered (specially having them flying all the time) then the Dalek/Cyberman face-off would have been rather more interesting.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
They had to boost the Daleks, though, to get past a lifetime of 'but why doesn't he just run up stairs ahaha' nonsense from philistines who've not seen Remembrance.

I am glad that Rose has now definitely gone and the real Doctor will now presumably stop moping over her.

[identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
ARE YOU COMING TO POPTIMISM TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE?

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect you now know the answer to this one. Though did we even discuss the matter in the end? Still, good pop!

[identity profile] kenix.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how a half human/half Time Lord Donna would die, but a half human/half Time Lord Doctor is just fine, and Rose getting her own personal Doctor was cheesy as all hell - but overall, it was alright. As far as finales go, that was definitely his best.

[identity profile] surprisetruck.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well human brain overloading on Time Lord versus Time Lord brain overloading on Ginger. WHO WOULD WIN ?

[identity profile] stu-n.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
HER BRAIN WOULD EXPLODE!! HER BRAIN!

[identity profile] puzzled-anwen.livejournal.com 2008-07-05 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, at least this way she probably won't come looking for him any more...

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
Although since she's reverted to Catherine Tate mode, part of me would quite like a cameo where she turns a corner, sees the TARDIS and her head bursts like in Scanners.

[identity profile] puzzled-anwen.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, I meant Rose actually, but yes.

[identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com 2008-07-06 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
I liked the first and third season finales, dammit! Especially 'Last of the Time Lords' - FUTURE SCIENCE JESUS! It was just 'Doomsday' I thought blew.

I note they carefully avoided the whole 'but the Doctor is half human anyway!' line of enquiry, which is probably for the best.

[identity profile] sbp.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
Doctor as Hobbit sucked the big one though.