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Tomorrow, this journal will have been running for five years. Five years! Which is not to say I've been writing it for five years, of course. Still. Blimey.

Churchill: The Hollywood Years is even better than I expected. While I would say that I love the Comic Strip's earlier films on this theme, Strike and GLC, when I sit down to watch them I find myself uncomfortably reminded of their flaws. But here, perhaps because Peter Richardson had something closer to a Hollywood budget, he could manage a better facsimile of the Hollywood style - and if you're attempting parody then you should always attempt to be as close as possible to your target, all except for the one axis you alter. So, having Christian Slater instantly puts you ahead of having a Comic Strip regular playing a Hollywood star playing the lead, and so forth. The remarkable thing is that as well as mercilessly mocking Hollywood's take on British history (I especially liked the loveable Irish Cockneys of Ye Olde Dick Van Dyke Street), they also manage to skewer a few targets within the real Britain both today (the nightbus scene) and historically (if Neville Chamberlain wasn't quite Leslie Phillips carrying Hitler's bags for him, he wasn't far off). Oh, and I realise that outside this context the following would be de facto evidence of insanity, but: Princess Margaret? Superhott.
Compared to which, Black Snake Moan could hardly compete. Put it this way - if you think a film with a nymphomaniac Christina Ricci chained to a radiator in her underwear sounds awesome, you'll be disappointed. If you think it sounds atrocious, you'll be pleasantly surprised. If the whole thing had been sold more as a film about the blues with a surprisingly effective supporting turn from Justin Timberlake, maybe everyone would have had a better idea what to expect.

In one of those handy developments where my interests intersect, the new Mountain Goats album has a song about HP Lovecraft.

Listening to the sixth series of Andy Hamilton's Hell-com Old Harry's Game, I found it entertaining enough but didn't quite get why some people esteem it so highly. They seem to have been casting around for new set-ups by that series, is that the problem? I mean, yes it works as a light topical and theological satire, but I'm not sure it's something that would reward repeat listening any more than HIGNFY? is rewatchable. And if it's not the case that everyone goes to Hell, why was Gandhi there? I just assumed from mentions like his that nobody makes Hamilton's Heaven, but apparently that's not it. So at least get a gag out of consigning someone like Gandhi to the flames!

Meanwhile, all the real world can offer is a new gay plague in San Francisco, why we were right to be scared of In The Night Garden and some fairly atrocious weather. I think I'm staying in hiding 'til February.
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
See, I exhausted the potential for that sort of Five Years joke back in December with my eschaton post...

I am not sure whether or not I approve of the almost universal critical adulation for the new BSP. They always struck me as the sort of band certain people would never get, but I seem to have been proved wrong.

I've yet to hear the Mountain Goats or Campesinos albums, but am fairly confident I'll be getting hold of 'em soon enough.
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Date: 2008-01-15 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Obviously, given this is a public post, I would never use or endorse such a dubiously legal facility, but thank you nonetheless.

Date: 2008-01-15 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apiphile.livejournal.com
In one of those handy developments where my interests intersect, the new Mountain Goats album has a song about HP Lovecraft.

Excuse me while I sit here and shriek with joy for a bit!

Date: 2008-01-15 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Always glad to spread a little joy.

Date: 2008-01-15 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewho.livejournal.com
SCORE! one more person to join the ranks of C-THY fans. that's you and me, barry. the rest of teh world is composed of peons.

Date: 2008-01-15 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
It's not *just* us - I know at least one other!

Though admittedly, after him that may be it.

Date: 2008-01-15 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewho.livejournal.com
yeah, i know one other who'll say it 'isn't that bad'. that'll be it though...

Date: 2008-01-15 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-dan-tic.livejournal.com
I didn't know you knew peter richardson

Date: 2008-01-15 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewho.livejournal.com
boom tish!

Date: 2008-01-15 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Maybe this post might bring some more out of the woodwork!

Date: 2008-01-15 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-dan-tic.livejournal.com
churchill the hollywood years is the anti les mis in the same way that barry is the anti-dan

choose your side

Date: 2008-01-15 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Hang about, what's Les Mis got to do with the price of fish?

Date: 2008-01-15 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-dan-tic.livejournal.com
I thought I was fairly clear ;)

what it's got to do with c:thy is that it's the polar opposite

I'm firmly of the opinion that the only two things i've EVER seen which are worse than c:thy are the deleted scenes from c:thy (seriosuly the one with the presendent on the phone?) and the first dolmeo add with the puppet family

Date: 2008-01-15 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I was watching it on TV, so cannot comment on the DVD extras.

Why Les Mis in particular, and not some other film tragedy?

Date: 2008-01-15 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-dan-tic.livejournal.com
well I'm talking about the stage version of les mis which I reguard as the greatest thing ever

Date: 2008-01-15 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
So they're only opposites in the sense of being your candidates for the zenith and nadir of human artistic achievement, rather than anything more nuanced?

Date: 2008-01-15 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-dan-tic.livejournal.com
as i said, I thought I was being fairly clear.....

Date: 2008-01-15 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yes but doesn't that mean you think I am The Worst Person Ever? Obviously I have always been aware that you Disapprove but I would have thought that, at least until I actually get around to any killing sprees, I still had *some* competition...

Date: 2008-01-15 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-dan-tic.livejournal.com
in order for my to think you were the worst person ever, I would have to think myslef the best person ever

that thing there, I don't think that

Date: 2008-01-15 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewho.livejournal.com
it isn't the anti anything, i love 'em both.

Date: 2008-01-15 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-dan-tic.livejournal.com
I know all too well your history of straddling the worlds or right and wrong and committing to neither ;)

Date: 2008-01-15 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com
I am too scared to click on the in the night garden link. :S

Date: 2008-01-15 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
It's about a man whose robot suit made him fall over and hurt himself. But I am convinced that it's only the start...

Date: 2008-01-15 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com
The in the night garden ppls are robots? Sob...

Date: 2008-01-15 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exliontamer.livejournal.com
It made me really sad. Poor Tombliboo.
I think that is the tweeest thing I have ever said.
PS. Three letter Es in a row, cor!

Date: 2008-01-16 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I'm sure you'd never normally have three Es in a row, &c.

But yes, that was unusually twee for you. Have you been seeing less of Johnny than usual or something?

Date: 2008-01-15 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guntrip.livejournal.com
In one of those handy developments where my interests intersect, the new Mountain Goats album has a song about HP Lovecraft.

It's also really, really good!

Date: 2008-01-16 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
You kids and your downloaded leaks...but yes, it's Darnielle, I may not have heard it yet but I can take that much as read!

Date: 2008-01-16 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guntrip.livejournal.com
I got a promo of this one! Although it took me about a month to actually get around to listening to it, by which time it had leaked. So, er, as you were.

Date: 2008-01-16 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
TBH I think I probably had Get Lonely this far in advance, I've just been sufficiently distracted by loads of other stuff (most especially BSP) that I've not got around to hinting at the appropriate person re: this one...

Date: 2008-01-15 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com
In The Night Garden has terrified me since I was trawling the bottom of my Freeview list and first saw its name...watching it only made things worse.

Old Harry's Game has some blinding episodes in the later series, but they had rather overstretched the gag to breaking point past series 3. Radio 7 has just started from scratch again so you can hear some of the more glorious episodes featuring Gary - Scumspawn is alright but lacked the subtlety of Satan having a minion repeating Satan's original career hiccup. I think it's series 5 where he becomes Imam or Penge and the Pope...that's brilliant, that one.

Date: 2008-01-16 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
my 18 month old nephew is ENTRANCED by it, there's no other word. i like it when the little tiny ones fart, also when derek jacobi sings.

alsoalso, i'm sure this isn't the first time r4gd0ll have had tr!bun4l issues around performers, i think there was a t3llytubb!3s one as well (and why aren't equity representing him at the tribunal???)

Date: 2008-01-16 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I was scared before, and now you tell me the Master is in it? Aieee!

Date: 2008-01-16 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
You see, before plumping for that Wikipedia link I tried the BBC site and found a practically blank mini-site with no indication of those repeats. Nice work with the convergence there, Auntie. I shall investigate the R7 schedules, thank you.

'Have you looked in Richard Nixon?'

Date: 2008-01-16 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com
Ha - last night at 10.30 in the comedy club. I am listening to Ep 2 now...
Edited Date: 2008-01-16 11:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-01-15 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tintintin.livejournal.com
But the lunacy of having, say, Robbie Coltrane playing Charles Bronson playing Ken Livingstone was the best thing about those Comic Strips!

I must confess, I had no idea that that Churchill flick was Peter Richardson. I might have given it a look at the cinema if I had. Ah well...

Date: 2008-01-16 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
That was an entertaining gag in its way, sure, but I think there's a limit to how well impressionism works as satire - and if you can get the real thing, that's usually going to work better. Hence my liking Entourage's cameo celebrity meltdowns much more than most spoofs of Hollywood, say.

Against which: When I first heard about Churchill, I assumed it was someone else nicking Peter Richardson's trick - I was definitely more interested once I heard it was actually him.

Re: Black Snake Moan.....

Date: 2008-01-16 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silentbob9484.livejournal.com
...it's on my DVD rental list. Looks like I'll be disappointed.

:(

Re: Black Snake Moan.....

Date: 2008-01-16 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
It's not atrocious or anything, but it's not nearly as sexy as it looked in the publicity.

Date: 2008-01-16 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meerium.livejournal.com
we inadvertantly ended up watching in the night garden with the sound down, whilst listening to a pentangle record (that sounds disturbingly like 'one song to the tune of another'), and it was, peculiarly, fab.

Date: 2008-01-16 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Similarly, I can imagine Circulus suiting it pretty well.

thanks much

Date: 2008-04-06 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i am gonna show this to my friend, bro

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