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alexsarllHave I used that title before? I don't care. Nineties night was bloody bizarre. I'd love to see what the Phonogram boys would have made of it - though for the most part it felt more like being in a really-pushing-it follow up to Life on Mars. OK, my default look basically hasn't changed in a decade but ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
angelv, say, was in brilliantly old skool mode - leading to a momentary disconnect whenever she got out her shiny modern mobile. And the music! There was the ace stuff, obviously. Some of this you still hear out anyway (Suede, Carter USM), others not so much (early Echobelly, Green Day's 'Basket Case') and some I don't think I even heard played out the first time round (Kenickie b-sides?). With dire bands who had one good song (as most ultimately do), they generally did well in finding it - so we got Shed 7's 'Dolphin' and Sleeper's 'Delicious'. But still, there was also the really rubbish stuff, because this was the whole nineties, more or less - so 'Here Come The Hotstepper' and Chaka Demus & Pliers were in full effect, alongside plenty even worse and unmemorable with it. There were gaps - one DJ had never even heard of White Town, and there was a distinct lack of dance from the handbag or boshing schools (though we did get 'Hey Boy Hey Girl' - 1999, and had a lot of us thinking it might be outside the remit). Overall, they weren't just going for 'our' nineties, they were going for the whole nineties. And it was weird seeing those boundaries melt away with distance, like that Borges story about the two feuding theologians whom it turns out their god can't tell apart. Or like how Soft Cell saw themselves as adversaries and opposites to Visage, but nowadays you'd assume that a fan of one will probably like the other. Of everything they played, I think Elastica's 'Line Up' stood out as the single most nineties song ever made (though there was a sheer bloody-minded joy in dancing to Me Me Me in 2007. They said it wouldn't last - well we showed them). But the weirdest moment for me was Ash's 'Girl from Mars'. I don't know if I even own that song, and perhaps that's part of why it whirled me straight back to the Wherehouse - well, that and the fact that as a song about a lost summer and the things that never quite happened, it was only ever going to get stronger with time.
So yeah, I think I enjoyed myself, in an existential crisis sort of way.
In other news: stripy rabbit!
angelv, say, was in brilliantly old skool mode - leading to a momentary disconnect whenever she got out her shiny modern mobile. And the music! There was the ace stuff, obviously. Some of this you still hear out anyway (Suede, Carter USM), others not so much (early Echobelly, Green Day's 'Basket Case') and some I don't think I even heard played out the first time round (Kenickie b-sides?). With dire bands who had one good song (as most ultimately do), they generally did well in finding it - so we got Shed 7's 'Dolphin' and Sleeper's 'Delicious'. But still, there was also the really rubbish stuff, because this was the whole nineties, more or less - so 'Here Come The Hotstepper' and Chaka Demus & Pliers were in full effect, alongside plenty even worse and unmemorable with it. There were gaps - one DJ had never even heard of White Town, and there was a distinct lack of dance from the handbag or boshing schools (though we did get 'Hey Boy Hey Girl' - 1999, and had a lot of us thinking it might be outside the remit). Overall, they weren't just going for 'our' nineties, they were going for the whole nineties. And it was weird seeing those boundaries melt away with distance, like that Borges story about the two feuding theologians whom it turns out their god can't tell apart. Or like how Soft Cell saw themselves as adversaries and opposites to Visage, but nowadays you'd assume that a fan of one will probably like the other. Of everything they played, I think Elastica's 'Line Up' stood out as the single most nineties song ever made (though there was a sheer bloody-minded joy in dancing to Me Me Me in 2007. They said it wouldn't last - well we showed them). But the weirdest moment for me was Ash's 'Girl from Mars'. I don't know if I even own that song, and perhaps that's part of why it whirled me straight back to the Wherehouse - well, that and the fact that as a song about a lost summer and the things that never quite happened, it was only ever going to get stronger with time. So yeah, I think I enjoyed myself, in an existential crisis sort of way.
In other news: stripy rabbit!
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Date: 2007-04-06 10:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-04-06 11:58 am (UTC)I'm seeing Toby's new band next week - if I get to meet him, I may mention the old one are still getting play.
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Date: 2007-04-06 11:12 am (UTC)I will come next time when I am not likely to have my coach turn into a pumpkin. ;)
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Date: 2007-04-06 11:21 am (UTC)I don't know whether to be proud or embarrassed that I remembered all the Hotstepper lyrics. Proud, probably. This is me, after all.
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Date: 2007-04-06 11:30 am (UTC)I can't stand Britpop now, I mean I never really bought into all but there was a time I'd listen to Suede etc on the way to work, but just the other day Claire put on Dog Man Star and I was crawling up the walls by the second track.
Still got my Strangelove singles/albums though.
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Date: 2007-04-06 11:35 am (UTC)Alex: was this trip to a 90s theme night something you did sober, pre-meditated, in cold blood? This is important to your future.
They were playing v 90s indie hits at the Pillars of Herc at my one-before-last radio show, it was sort of great as we boggled at what came next, and then the pints occured and then we were singing Ugly Bleeder along to In Betweener and it was still funny. And then we talked about Louise Wener's book, even more funny.
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Date: 2007-04-06 11:39 am (UTC)What are the chances of someone playing "Dem Girls" by Zig and Zag at Popjism today btw?
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Date: 2007-04-06 12:02 pm (UTC)I was sober at the start of the evening but c'mon, Maundy Thursday - one has to go out and do *something*!
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Date: 2007-04-07 11:20 am (UTC)Answer: because this way it gets to still feel like part of the rich tapestry of the universe, and it involves stuff which does bear on the main plot, but is not constrained by everyone just having to impersonate/work in the gaps around what we saw on screen.
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Date: 2007-04-07 11:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-04-07 11:32 am (UTC)Marcus came later - he was the foppish English Ranger. Basically Stephen Fry as Aragorn, in space.
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Date: 2007-04-07 11:37 am (UTC)Oh shit, my antivirus thing is telling me i have a virus but it can't remove it, I threw money at the antivirus thing for a REASON and now it can't fix it! Bastards!
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Date: 2007-04-07 11:42 am (UTC)Where Lost and X-Files went wrong was in forgetting that the story didn't just need to be long - it needed to progress towards a genuine ending, not just drag on and chase its own tail with ever-decreasing returns.
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Date: 2007-04-06 12:01 pm (UTC)There were nineties nights going in 2002, if not before. That was definitely too soon. But I think the revival craze has been drawing from increasingly more recent periods ever since, what, the Renaissance did Greco-Roman retro?
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Date: 2007-04-06 11:55 am (UTC)Annoyingly, had a far, far to wide definition of Britpop to be truly hilarious. But that they played 3! (Count 'em!) Kula Shaker records made sure I'd never actually just fall into some reverie.
The DJ dropping Kinky Afro as I wandered out of the toilet, smeared in eyeliner for the first time in years, just as I cross over into my 30s was a glorious end/start of my decade though.
KG
*I lie, I suspect.
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Date: 2007-04-06 12:07 pm (UTC)There was no Kula Shaker last night, thank heavens. Did you get into zombie frenzy Spaced episode mode and start fighting off hallucinatory Nazi ghouls?
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Date: 2007-04-06 12:18 pm (UTC)KG
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