It's always summer in the songs
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If you'd told me two months ago that I'd be in Kilburn, watching Scritti Politti (with a line-up featuring
rhodri) covering Jeru the Damaja, I'd have been surprised. I probably wouldn't have disbelieved you, because I'll believe most anything these days. But I would have been surprised. Though likely not half so surprised as
rhodri would have been if you'd told him, of course.
I'd expected the Luminaire to be a back-room-of-pub job, but it's surprisingly lush - all red drapes and leather sofas, like nightclubs look in TV shows. Shortfly after I've mentioned this to
oneofthose, and said that it makes me half-expect a bad Marc Bolan impersonator to show up, T Rex starts playing - which is especially spooky given the rest of the between-bands music is ska. The first act on is initially amusing - she's Bonnie Tyler on a bad day covering Tori Amos with more daddy issues. After the fourth song, though, it stops being funny.
cappuccino_kid suggests that she's not 4 Real but a genius of character comedy - but then if memory serves he liked Tony Ferrino too. Wet Dog are up next, and while they're very 1979, they do gradually grow on me - not necessarily something I'd listen to at home, but at least a little unusual. It's during their set that I realise quite how full the venue is with people I know, and indeed quite how full generally, to the extent that I'm sure I see Nicholas Passant but don't actually get chance to make contact, and don't even spot the allegedly present
dafinki.
Scritti are...strange. Green no longer looks like kin to Dr Robert and The Good Paul Weller, but then nor do they anymore. Now he looks and talks like the first guy to get killed in a heist movie. But when he starts singing, it's still the exact same voice. And though he suggests we treat it all as an open rehearsal, and it is rather stop-start, and these are new songs I don't know, I think they're a lot more instant than Anomie and Bonhomie was, so he's clearly still got the same ear for a tune, or at least an ear that's different but as good.
Stay Beautiful was even more fun, but that was very much in spite of the band. Really, what was the point of them?
Most impressed with The IT Crowd - and unlike my regrettably positive initial reaction to Hyperdrive, I'm sure I was sober this time. It's not reinventing the sitcom, it's not even quite as funny as Black Books, but that still leaves it far funnier than 99% of sitcoms, especially when the infallible Chris Morris is on screen. Similarly, Belle de Jour is not the best book ever written, nor even particularly shocking, but it's a pleasant enough light read, and I really needes something to cleanse the palate, a short book in which nobody dies.
"They want to know whether Muslims are extremists or not. Death to them and to their newspapers,". Well, it's certainly an answer, isn't it? Still, good to see some of our politicians finally taking a sane stand, with both Labour and Conservative MPs calling for arrests of some protesters over those despicable placards, and the police seemingly in accord. Even the Guardian managed a fairly sensible leader, though their news pages rather let them down: "They wanted the paper prosecuted. The PM gave them the brush-off, arguing that his government could not interfere with the right to free speech." Well, no, what you've done there is confuse 'polite expression of the only legitimate response' with 'the brush-off'. Though Jyllands-Posten also seem a little confused - "We apologised for hurting the feelings of a lot of Muslims in this. But we don't apologise for printing the cartoons." As well say "We apologise for hurting that man. But we don't apologise for pointing a gun at him and then pulling the trigger." Particularly amusing was the reaction of some Saudi minister/princeling or other, who called on the Vatican to halt publication of the cartoons. Yeah, like we needed any more evidence that you're about six centuries behind. Though of course the Vatican has condemned the cartoons - who can blame them? Bet they'd love to claw back the power that Saudi thought they had.
Tariq Ramadan says "In Islam, representations of all prophets are strictly forbidden. It is both a matter of the fundamental respect due to them and a principle of faith requiring that, in order to avoid any idolatrous temptations, God and the prophets never be represented. Hence, to represent a prophet is a grave transgression." Those other prophets including, of course, the ones Christians and Jews worship and depict. So if we're going to be 'respectful' and all play by Islam's rules, like some people craving 'compromise' would like, that means another spate of iconoclasm in the churches too, and burning all those religious epics on celluloid too. Over to al Qaida's number two: "We are in a battle," Zawahiri counselled, "and more than half of it is taking place in the battlefield of the media." Which is why we must never cede that battlefield, ever.
Anyway, trust an old Pembroke alumnus to come up with the first actually funny cartoon in all this.
That Maxim ad, where the two men pretend to gay up to get rid of their girlfriends? Somebody's grasp of female psychology is deeply outdated. But then, I suppose we are talking about Maxim.
Let's say you're walking along a beach, and you happen across a message in a bottle - you'd be excited, wouldn't you? That something like that still happens, and that you've just found one! Unless you're this joyless sod, who instead decided to write and tell the sender off for littering.
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Scritti are...strange. Green no longer looks like kin to Dr Robert and The Good Paul Weller, but then nor do they anymore. Now he looks and talks like the first guy to get killed in a heist movie. But when he starts singing, it's still the exact same voice. And though he suggests we treat it all as an open rehearsal, and it is rather stop-start, and these are new songs I don't know, I think they're a lot more instant than Anomie and Bonhomie was, so he's clearly still got the same ear for a tune, or at least an ear that's different but as good.
Stay Beautiful was even more fun, but that was very much in spite of the band. Really, what was the point of them?
Most impressed with The IT Crowd - and unlike my regrettably positive initial reaction to Hyperdrive, I'm sure I was sober this time. It's not reinventing the sitcom, it's not even quite as funny as Black Books, but that still leaves it far funnier than 99% of sitcoms, especially when the infallible Chris Morris is on screen. Similarly, Belle de Jour is not the best book ever written, nor even particularly shocking, but it's a pleasant enough light read, and I really needes something to cleanse the palate, a short book in which nobody dies.
"They want to know whether Muslims are extremists or not. Death to them and to their newspapers,". Well, it's certainly an answer, isn't it? Still, good to see some of our politicians finally taking a sane stand, with both Labour and Conservative MPs calling for arrests of some protesters over those despicable placards, and the police seemingly in accord. Even the Guardian managed a fairly sensible leader, though their news pages rather let them down: "They wanted the paper prosecuted. The PM gave them the brush-off, arguing that his government could not interfere with the right to free speech." Well, no, what you've done there is confuse 'polite expression of the only legitimate response' with 'the brush-off'. Though Jyllands-Posten also seem a little confused - "We apologised for hurting the feelings of a lot of Muslims in this. But we don't apologise for printing the cartoons." As well say "We apologise for hurting that man. But we don't apologise for pointing a gun at him and then pulling the trigger." Particularly amusing was the reaction of some Saudi minister/princeling or other, who called on the Vatican to halt publication of the cartoons. Yeah, like we needed any more evidence that you're about six centuries behind. Though of course the Vatican has condemned the cartoons - who can blame them? Bet they'd love to claw back the power that Saudi thought they had.
Tariq Ramadan says "In Islam, representations of all prophets are strictly forbidden. It is both a matter of the fundamental respect due to them and a principle of faith requiring that, in order to avoid any idolatrous temptations, God and the prophets never be represented. Hence, to represent a prophet is a grave transgression." Those other prophets including, of course, the ones Christians and Jews worship and depict. So if we're going to be 'respectful' and all play by Islam's rules, like some people craving 'compromise' would like, that means another spate of iconoclasm in the churches too, and burning all those religious epics on celluloid too. Over to al Qaida's number two: "We are in a battle," Zawahiri counselled, "and more than half of it is taking place in the battlefield of the media." Which is why we must never cede that battlefield, ever.
Anyway, trust an old Pembroke alumnus to come up with the first actually funny cartoon in all this.
That Maxim ad, where the two men pretend to gay up to get rid of their girlfriends? Somebody's grasp of female psychology is deeply outdated. But then, I suppose we are talking about Maxim.
Let's say you're walking along a beach, and you happen across a message in a bottle - you'd be excited, wouldn't you? That something like that still happens, and that you've just found one! Unless you're this joyless sod, who instead decided to write and tell the sender off for littering.
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Date: 2006-02-06 11:54 am (UTC)You are the only person who has said this. Truly, you are the new me and it is the new 2PL1PC i.e. STOP STEALING MY LIFE.
Agree again, obviously, on the cartoons. Was rather depressed at the number of fifth columnists on LJ over the weekend. Oh well.
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Date: 2006-02-06 11:57 am (UTC)Thank you for your email concerning the BBC's coverage of the row over the
cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. We have received a very wide range of
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Date: 2006-02-06 11:58 am (UTC)I missed the IT Crowd. Was Chris Morris any good in it?
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:02 pm (UTC)i didn't watch the band with the emo name. a friend once kissed the lead singer at sb. i'm going to have a good laugh at her now. instead, i played on the lotr pinball machine. i reccomend it highly. you get to bash the balrog and everything.
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:13 pm (UTC)They were quite possibly the worst band SB's had, and certainly the most inexplicable given they're not only rubbish, but total no-marks.
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:05 pm (UTC)The IT crowd made me laugh out loud. It's a bit crude and predictable, like Father Ted, but very funny.
Sean has posted me a link to this: http://muttawa.blogspot.com/ which is a very good blog on That Issue. Dunno if I believe the writer is really Saudi though, but you never know.
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:11 pm (UTC)Although I prefered the 'Sean' character (can't remeber his name) while Michael prefered the other one.
Jen or whatever her name was annoyed me because I am a woman and I am not shoe obcessed probably... and those shoes were not that great anyway....
And I know of a major investment bank where the lifts don't stop on the IT floor, leaving the IT people to leave one floor above or below and take the stairs. Maybe not to bother the important traders with the lift stopping for IT people when they could be going quickly to their desks to make money... or IT people smell
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:19 pm (UTC)and those shoes were not that great anyway....
Precisely.
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:18 pm (UTC)If The IT Crowd was entirely about IT, it would have crashed and burned with the general public - and there were enough little touches, like the Flying Spaghetti Monster picture, that I was convinced they probably know their stuff. Besides, it's not as if Father Ted was all about religion.
(And I think FT's a better comparison than Darkplace, in that it's not meant to be actively *bad*, but it does want you always to remember that this is a sitcom and playing by sitcom rules)
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:21 pm (UTC)Did you think so? I thought the whole thing was set-up to be Father ted-esque silliness, but there wasn't the interplay between the actors, so it all ended up "I'll say my line, you say yours".
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:13 pm (UTC)There was a little girl in a I <3 Al Qaieda (sp?) hat, I mean WTF??? *livid*
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:15 pm (UTC)(Though actually, I'd much prefer to reinstall the old gods Mohammed evicted from the Ka'aba)
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:35 pm (UTC)piss off a lot of peoplemake a point.OR, y'know, because I really want to black up the Buddy Christ.
It's because I'm in gobsmacked mode still.
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Date: 2006-02-06 12:37 pm (UTC)"No, I'm calling his mum's pint a poof, and the slag loves it."
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Date: 2006-02-06 01:20 pm (UTC)Dafinki didn't go in the end.
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Date: 2006-02-06 01:58 pm (UTC)Ooh no, we don't worship prophets (insert your own Jews/profits joke here) we just, erm, think they rock or something. Worshipping a prophet would itself be idolatrous.
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