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"As will be revealed to you in the following pages, Z and I realised that we had sold our souls to the devil and that if we wanted to retrieve them, then we should head for darkest Africa, confront Satan and demand our souls back and, if that didn't work, nick them back off him when he wasn't looking. As for why Gimpo is here, I've no idea. He's obviously never been stupid enough to have lent his soul to anyone, much less sell it to the devil."
So writes Bill Drummond. Of The Wild Highway's two authors, Bill comes across as the sane one. Bill once burnt a million quid. I'd love to quote you some of Z[odiac Mindwarp]'s bits, but they'd set off every firewall in the land; he's just been musing on whether having sex with a dead nun counts as rape.

Back to Cambridge last night - and not just that I was in the Chancery Lane enclave, or even that I was meeting fellow Tabs, but that I realised I had no mobile number for anyone and as such would just have to wait until they turned up to learn when they'd turn up - an unsettling reminder of a barbarous past. I have now decided that I want to be the lesbian Duke of Wellington.

For the first time in too long, I remember a decent proportion of last night's dream rather than just a few images. [livejournal.com profile] bathtubgingirl and I were making jewellery for [livejournal.com profile] insecuregoddess and her two-headed snakes. Then I was up a hill at my parents' new house while my fourth-year junior school teacher rang to complain that I was meant to be learning to use MSPaint. But I still find that slightly less puzzling than this article, which appears to consist of putting lots of words together in what look like sentences, and then assembling those into what resemble paragraphs, and then acting as though that has proved a thesis.

"And perhaps the fiction Cunningham is attempting here is pitched at a reader who doesn't exist: an adolescent who can leap straight from Star Wars to Henry James, or an adult steeped in Woolf and Whitman who nevertheless retains a childlike capacity to be moved by X-Men 2." I've been accused of many things in my time, but non-existence? Although I grant that I might not count as "steeped" in Whitman - I read Leaves of Grass once, discovered the phrase "quivering love jelly" and an obsession with beards, and decided to move hurriedly on. Still, I love Woolf and I love X2, but here the argument falters, because after seeing The Hours and reading that review, I am of the opinion that Michael Cunningham is surplus to my requirements.
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, as a rule I think it's one of Nietzsche's weaker aphorisms, but I liked the addendum.
From: [identity profile] kiss-me-quick.livejournal.com
They can make you determined to get better and stuff.

From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
ie, determined to get back to where you were in the first place.
From: [identity profile] kiss-me-quick.livejournal.com
No. In the first place, a person was susceptible to stokes. This time, they may be determined to be healthier. And I'm not just talking about physical strength here anyway.

From: (Anonymous)
There was a very good short article in the Guardian recently about how it clearly cannot be read as a general law, due to the existence of things like strokes. Rather, it is a statement of defiance against vicissitude.

Given Nietzsche's rather unfortunate life he must have said it to himself a lot.

R
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Ah yes, I remember that. But I still reckon he was having a bit of an off-day with that one. I would puzzle over why it has been so much more famous than other, better lines. But then I remember all the people who quote "neither a borrower nor a lender be" as Shakespeare's thoughts, and understand.
From: [identity profile] stealthmunchkin.livejournal.com
But I do like 'neither a borrower nor a lender be' because it was the inspioration for the one good line in Frank Skinner's woeful sitcom My Blue Heaven, where his homophobic dad says "neither a borrower nor a bender be"
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Given the sodomites and the usurers all end up in the same circle of the Inferno, I would that all homophobic Christians were so consistent.
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
I always feel a little bit "stronger" after a "stroke".
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
That's not how you spell 'stickier'.

Date: 2005-08-09 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] my-name-is-anna.livejournal.com
The thing about computers replacing books is that it's quite hard to stare at a computer screen for ages.

Date: 2005-08-09 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] my-name-is-anna.livejournal.com
Also, like Morrissey, I haven't had a dream in a long time.

Date: 2005-08-09 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, I tend to print anything longer than a couple of pages for later perusal, but I think that's more a generational thing than a universal law.

Date: 2005-08-09 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] my-name-is-anna.livejournal.com
a bt lke da inclntion 2 writ in txt spek

my dream is weirder than yours

Date: 2005-08-09 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-leroy-brown.livejournal.com
there was a dying species of intelligent insects that we had to try to save. i took the pregnant insects and held them over a frying pan, because the heat eased the egg laying and speeded up the hatching. once the pan was too hot though and i made an insect cry. oops

Re: my dream is weirder than yours

Date: 2005-08-09 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Man, I suspect that's easier to analyse than mine. Or perhaps it's just always easier to work them out with a bit of distance.

Re: my dream is weirder than yours

Date: 2005-08-09 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-leroy-brown.livejournal.com
man, sarah told me i was too freudian-obvious in my dreams but here i'm flummoxed. what is this on abuot then?

Date: 2005-08-09 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephens.livejournal.com
Is that the sequel to Bad Wisdom then, is it finished? I thought it was in permanent limbo because of laziness on the part of Mr Manning.

Date: 2005-08-09 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
It is finished, and out either this month or next, depending who you believe. It has taken a decade to write up, mind...

Date: 2005-08-09 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephens.livejournal.com
Fantastic! So do you have secret rights or is that just some PR?

Date: 2005-08-09 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I have an advance copy, because I'm special.

Date: 2005-08-09 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexdecampi.livejournal.com
When are they doing their thing at Borders? or is it Waterstones?

Date: 2005-08-09 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
630pm on the 25th, at Charing Cross Road Borders.

Date: 2005-08-09 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
Current music: Cry Boy Cry - Blue Zoo
Oh, good grief. Your pedestal grows ever higher.

an adolescent who can leap straight from Star Wars to Henry James, or an adult steeped in Woolf and Whitman who nevertheless retains a childlike capacity to be moved by X-Men 2.
Yes. I was the former and am now the latter (although some of the Woolf is somewhat against my will) but I'm kind of used to Guardian articles making similar cultural statements that seem to invalidate my existence...

only books - and the sensory access of the real - can unleash imagination
Well, at least Thom Yorke doesn't have to look any further for the next single title.

But the rest of that article reads bizarrely like the fantasy fiction of Julian May, full of things that started out as perfectly respectable ordinary words and one day woke to find that they'd been stitched to other perfectly respectable ordinary words in some ghastly 'this is how we talk in the future' experiment.

I do quite like "tigritude" though.

Date: 2005-08-09 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I must confess that I know nothing of Blue Zoo beyond this one rather wonderful track - it's on the surprisingly-unpredictable-given-the-title compilation Electric 80s (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009S4WLG/qid%3D1123587534/026-2246310-5454028), which I recently nabbed from the free box.

For liberals, the Guardian can be dreadfully prescriptive, can't they?

More a post-rock or emo title than a Radiohead, I'd have thought. Bright Eyes on a bad day, maybe? But I'm glad it's not just me who reads that article and takes a moment before realising it didn't actually say anything comprehensible.

Date: 2005-08-09 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
Sigh - I saw that compilation in HMV yesterday (two different covers! it's got two different covers!) and cursed my lack of finances, there are at least three songs on it I don't already own, erm, somewhere. 'Cry Boy Cry' is one of them, actually - I've got what is possibly Blue Zoo's only other song, which isn't nearly as good.
I want it. I also want its sister New Wave compilation, which is almost as good. Can't justify it until I've got Juliet's debut album, though.

Heh. Don't Radiohead count as post-rock these days?
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, I got the New Wave one from the same source, and am very pleased with that too. I seldom buy compilations, but these go far enough from the beaten track that they might be worth it.
I note you've been listening to other songs by Men Without Hats of late - until I got this, I didn't even have 'Safety Dance'. And how glad I am that's been remedied.
From: [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
'Pop Goes The World' is sweet, but isn't nearly as mad as 'Safety Dance', though. But on the same handmade compilation I do have 'Love Detonator' by Jona Lewie, which is enough mad for one entire CD and an amusing thing to play at people who only know 'Stop The Cavalry'.

That Electric 80s set has 'Shiny Shiny' by Haysi Fantayzee on it, which, whilst a completely fantastic track in every way, doesn't have a single electronic note in it. I love compilations.

And, looking at the tracklisting, I haven't even heard of Swansway. How can there possibly still be 80s music I haven't heard? Etc.

E.
x
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Well, it only says Electric, not Electronic. Or maybe they're subtly informing us that one of Haysi Fantayzee was an android?

Date: 2005-08-09 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duranorak.livejournal.com
I have seen them dance on Top Of The Pops and can only assume it was a very inferior android, with bits coming loose all the time. And dreadlocks.

Date: 2005-08-09 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbp.livejournal.com
I was in Camb last night too - at the low-key first Goldfrapp gig of the season. And very good it was too, even if one of the songs did go wonky and they had to skip it.

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