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Our expeditionary force to Brixton convenes at the New Piccadilly, a greasy spoon which has been 'closing down' for months but is still not actually closed (though to [livejournal.com profile] atommickbrane's horror, they have run out of puddings). After some confusion among members of the party as to where exactly we are, we head for Green Park and thence into the wilds. The depths of Brixton have many secrets, and the Windmill is one of them. From outside it looks like it should be full of rednecks; inside it feels like it should be an expat bar somewhere Mediterranean, like the place where I saw those blokes who did 'Matchstick Men And Matchstick Cats And Dogs' when I was teeny. Also, they still have their Hallowe'en lights up.

The first band on, eventually, are Villette. In whose favour: their singer wants to be in Velvet Goldmine; one of their fans looks very good in a corset.
However: the singer's failing in that ambition; they have one song which sounds like the so-called Libertines and another which sounds like the Lemonheads; and they announce one number "It was ten years ago today..."

The Vichy Government, on the other hand, dedicate a song to Pete Doherty. "Hurry up and die Pete, you're boring us." Even though Wh0res in Taxis is barely finished, they start with an even newer song; I miss some of the lyrics but it catch the bit which accuses the Beatles of having sex with five-year olds, so I'm definitely in favour of it. They also cast some impressively sinister shadows. It's always a joy to see them keeping music evil.

luxembourg don't get off to a great start, but have soon engendered homoerotic chav antics*. Appropriately, these begin during 'luxembourg versus Great Britain', for which they'd make the perfect video. They're soon into the (alternate universe/future) hits, including 'Close-Cropped', the second best gay song of last year.

Among other matters addressed between bands were a meeting of Comment-Wh0res Anonymous; my explanation to [livejournal.com profile] neil_scott of why Byron, Keats and Doctor Doom are all better role models than Alexander Pope; and the surprising news that [livejournal.com profile] verlaine is black.

*And I'm bagsying that onefor Indie Band Name Bingo.

Date: 2005-02-02 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
Luxembourg have already inspired a LOT of drooling over in The Other Place on tinterweb - frankly I'm a bit scared! They were a hilarious experience though. I am STILL astounded at how good the Vichy Government were, and will say more on those lines after a restorative PINT at lunchtime!

Date: 2005-02-02 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Is this hilarity chav-related or inherent to the band themself?

Date: 2005-02-02 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
I fear mostly chav-related, although they ENJOYED themselves didn't they. The Teletubbies comments were v apt!

Date: 2005-02-02 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
i like to think of myself as more of a hoob, personally...

Date: 2005-02-02 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
You were giving very good rock posture towards the end of the set, I thought.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
I've never seen the Hoobs - alack! Sorry I didn't say hello by the way, but introducing myself as someone offa the interweb didn't seem very apt to your ROCK AND ROLL stylings! :)

Date: 2005-02-02 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
heh! thank you both! i'm about as rock n' roll as a sponge though, it's all the squirming born of embarrassment!

Date: 2005-02-02 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
hold on, i thought THIS was The Other Place?

Date: 2005-02-02 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Otherness is in the eye of the beholder.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
It depends on who I'm talking to, don't it petal :)

Date: 2005-02-02 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
incidentally, what's this Other Place? do i actually want to know?! (grins nervously)

Date: 2005-02-02 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
It's just a rubbish little message board that used to be good in 2001 and is now rubbish - but apparently two Luxemboys were doing the snogging (I missed this!) and it caused, er, a little excitement amongst some of the, um, ladies present. Ahem!

Date: 2005-02-02 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
i'm fairly certain it didn't happen, but hey - nice bit of created mythology there!

Date: 2005-02-02 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
whereas i finished off the Worst Day Ever by rocking to drinkme for free and zero pence and having beers with the wife and sean and carla and michael and talking to julian who is a very nice chap and getting home in plenty of time for a good night's kip.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Thing is, I like Drinkme but in my experience 93Ft is a dreadful venue. Did they manage to excel anyway?

Date: 2005-02-02 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
i thought it was okay actually - decent sound and plenty of people without being too crowded.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
according to the man in the new picc they will definitly be open for the next five months and then their rent is up for discussion, ie it could be the end then.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
I was really disappointed yesterday :( I think laurels are being firmly rested upon.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
When I first went, some months back, I was under the impression we were in the last few weeks.
So the consensus is that at some stage before the Sun expands to consume the Earth, the New Piccadilly will probably close.
Bah, it's not as if it's even my favourite greasy spoon!

Date: 2005-02-02 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tintintin.livejournal.com
But Pope was a twisted and misogynistic dwarf with some of the best rhyming skillz the english language has ever seen! What's not to admire?

Not to say that Byron and Doom are worse role models, but that dullard Keats should be stricken from the list forthwith!

Date: 2005-02-02 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Keats correctly and damningly identified where the Augustans went wrong: they played upon a rocking-horse and thought it Pegasus.

Writing like Pope is easy.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tintintin.livejournal.com
Not so easy that when TS Eliot tried it in The Waste Land, Ezra Pound (who was editing his mate's work) basically tore him a new arsehole for doing it and sneered that as he couldn't hope to match Pope, Eliot should probably just cut almost all of that shit from the poem - or words to that effect - and so Eliot did.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, but Eliot had some serious off days.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verlaine.livejournal.com
I am a black man whited-up, rather like an inverse [livejournal.com profile] neil_scott. Irony, racism... or just survival?

Date: 2005-02-02 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
You have complete control of Superman. What do you do?
(http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/panel/110674414672890.htm)

"If I had complete control over Superman. I would make him fight a villain that had the power to turn him Black. Once this change is made I would chronicle all the social problems he would face as a Black super hero. He would immediately be kicked out of the Justice League. The American government would not see him as a protector anymore. He would become a threat to national security. Batman would become the nation's greatest super hero overnight. I would also highlight how he would be the same hero but the media would portray him differently. He would no longer be a savoir in the media's eyes. He would be reported as being a show off, arrogant, a media hound and a self promoter with an agenda. I would deal with Lois Lane being condemned by white society for being married to a Black Man. I have him deal with the fear of his sexuality as it relates to Black and White women. The fear of him producing more super powered Black people. I would have him have conversations with Black Lighting, Mr. Terrific and Static Shock about how if you are Black in the DC universe you will always be underneath the White super heroes. I would have Super Man begin to question himself. He would not feel super while he is Black in a culture of White supremacy. The effects would be more deadly than kryptonite. Once Super Man defeats the villain and he is White again. I would make him realize that his greatest power of being accepted on Earth as an alien is because he takes on the appearance of a White Man. I would have him have this discussion with Jon Jonz. The green alien would tell him that racism is why he keeps his original appearance as a shape shifting green alien. The reason would be to remind him of the evil of humanity. This way he can never become comfortable with humans. He wants to be able to see all their flaws. Unlike, Superman until he becomes Black. DC should pay me to write this story for them."
Alonzo Washington is the creator of Omega Man and a noted black rights campaigner.

Date: 2005-02-02 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] london-imp.livejournal.com
I think he should turn him into 'White-Hating Coon'.

Date: 2005-02-02 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yes, others have noted this comparison. Sad, isn't it?

Date: 2005-02-02 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] london-imp.livejournal.com
Yes, I suppose so. I'm not really into comics unless it's 'Our Wullie' or 'The Broons'. Personally I find the above rather touching.

Date: 2005-02-02 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
As it happens, noted Scottish artist Frank Quitely drew one or other of those (I never remember the difference) and is shortly to do 12 issues on Superman.

Date: 2005-02-02 01:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-02-02 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-newham.livejournal.com
Of course [livejournal.com profile] verlaine is black! And also the possessor of the only true American accent. I never argue with his claims.

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