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"Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, has welcomed today’s announcement that London has gained Approved Destination Status from China as a major step forward in encouraging more Chinese visitors to the capital."
So we've just been designated Approved by a dictatorship, and this is good? Personally, I'd want every non-free state on Earth to have my city on its Not On Your Fvcking Life, Matey list. I'd want the very name of my city to have the dictators soiling their underwear because we were just so terrifyingly free. But hey, London's always happy racking up the pool balls with Pinochet and Stalin these days, isn't it?

Lunchtime pint confirmed that I'm not feeling particularly social today. A quiet night in with the Dodgeball DVD beckons.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregjames.livejournal.com
Nothing wrong with China. They only execute people if they steal more than 2'500 yuan.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] publicansdecoy.livejournal.com
Be sure to go balls deep.

-x-

We're better than you, and we know it

Date: 2005-01-21 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I always do, David. I always do.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
Tourism could play a big part in spreading the values of freedom though, because people can come here see what it's like then go home and think "China is a bit sh!t"

Date: 2005-01-21 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
In theory, yes. But if we're Approved, then doesn't that indicate that their leaders don't fear that? Is our public transport really *that* bad?

Date: 2005-01-21 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
I don't really know what Approved Destination Status is, but I'd imagine that you get it if you're a country quite a lot of people want to go to and the Chinese government want to save on Admin.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I just don't like the idea of being Approved. I mean, for starters it makes me think of Approved Schools, and there 'approved' is not dissimilar to 'special'.

Date: 2005-01-21 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kennedybak.livejournal.com
The values of economic freedom have already come to China, and you probably aren't going to see much representative democracy in action while holidaying here, so I'm not sure how well that argument stands up.

Date: 2005-01-22 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] euphoricstimuli.livejournal.com
I dunno, my dad teaches chinese kids doing ecconomics for a kind of foundation programme for warwick uni.
Most of them seem fairly unaware of political diferences, & dad takes great pleasure in converting them to capitalism.
If you cant read a broadsheet newspaper or watch the news properly in english, you wouldnt have a clue how britain works unless someone told you deliberately how it was different.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
boo @ ken.

my brane has officially died. that is all i can muster in response.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Ken has killed our branes so that we do not think too much and thus scare off the Chinese politburo...

The GLA mailing list has been great for LJ material this week, though, so he has some uses.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
i *almost* got a job as ken's PA you know.
i decided after the interview i did NOT want to work for him.
but then they never phoned me back anyroad.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I still think he's basically a good mayor. Just a little too keen on the international stage when he should be keeping his focus tightly on Londinium.

Date: 2005-01-21 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
hmmm he can be a bit of a w@nker and i definitely wouldn't want to work for him.

still he should get an award for congestion charge. car driving b@st@ards!

Date: 2005-01-21 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
Rubber stamped by China. Marvellous. Lets send Ken to Beijing so they can put him under house arrest.

Date: 2005-01-21 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnnybrolly.livejournal.com
A technical question, which shouldn't be taken in as a sign of anything other than curiosity: Is China really a dictatorship? What I mean is, China has a leader, who is (at the end of the day) in solely charge of the place, but that leader is appointed (how? I can't tell!). So, it's not democracy (even though the Chinese claim it is), but is it dictatorship?

Chinese Constitution

Date: 2005-01-21 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
That could be classed as an oligarchy, but it's a fairly minor distinction.

Date: 2005-01-21 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wardytron.livejournal.com
Cor, I hadn't realised that Livingstone had called Qaradawi a "progressive". Qaradawi supports suicide bombers, the death penalty for gays, and husbands' right to beat their wives. He also believed the Asian tsunami was punishment from Allah. A progressive compared to Bin Laden and Hitler, possibly.

Date: 2005-01-21 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Perhaps he's 'progressive' because he supports the use of up-to-date explosives by suicide bombers?

Date: 2005-01-21 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kennedybak.livejournal.com
I think he meant 'progressive' in relation to other jihad-advocating clerics. Not that I'm defending the statement.

Date: 2005-01-24 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yes but that's one of those fields where however far ahead you are, you're behind the crowd. A bit like the Special Olympics.

Date: 2005-01-21 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thermaland.livejournal.com
Today I read in a paper that over 6,000 coal miners died in China this year. The authorities said their target is to reduce this figure by 7% this year. I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP.

Date: 2005-01-21 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I didn't think you would be. And let's not even go near their transfusion/AIDS cover-up scandal.

Date: 2005-01-21 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thermaland.livejournal.com
To clarify, more than 6,000 coal miners died in China this year *in mining accidents*. Before some pedant takes me to task....

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