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I used to find the Tate gallery a joyous place. Then, roundabout the time its upstart sibling was born, it became confused, with 'themed' rooms befitting a school exhibition but not a great gallery. Yesterday, it was strangely depressing. Perhaps I spent too long amid the GF Watts, perhaps all those ruins and melancholy lights in the Turners got to me, perhaps it was just the absence of the John Martins, but something isn't right.
(I'm currently reading Alan Hollinghurst's The Spell* in which London's galleries and museums all seem to be awash with cruising. Is this simple fantasy on his part or is it just my World's Worst Gaydar again? I've never once seen anything of the sort.)

There was a book called Hadrian VII, by a man known either as Baron Corvo or Frederick Rolfe. Or at least I think there was. One used to see it in those classics-for-a-quid editions, and I am sure I bought it in one of the same. Then suddenly, one never saw it, my copy wasn't there and Amazon had no record of its existence. I became convinced it had fallen victim to one of the world's periodic revisions, but continued hunting. I've still had no joy but now I at least have tangential proof that it existed; a biography of sorts called The Quest for Corvo by one AJA Symons, whose own author bio describes him as "bizarre and baroque".

Dame Ian McKellen initially seems to be having trouble with a toffee, but once he's got into the flow of it he is positively glowing with evangelistic fervour about the glory of pantomine. Some of his answers/speeches on the subject are so stirring that he really should conclude them with a call to attack Mordor and/or the puny humans. Though he does seem a little taken aback once he realises he has just described the audience reaction as "a tsunami of love".
A shame some of the audience were so clearly care in the community cases, though.

On [livejournal.com profile] martylog's recommendation I gave Small Soldiers a try. As warnings on the perils of AI go, it's a damn sight better than T3. It's not quite on a par with Dante's Gremlins films (to which it makes sly references), has a few logic glitches (the toys can feel pain but not wind?) and features 'sh1t Bill Hicks' Denis Leary in a key role, but it's still a fine film. I especially like the line (to a useless customer complaints woman) "Is there a machine I can talk to?" Though the scene in which Kirstin Dunst is tied up by dolls with the voices of Christina Ricci and Sarah Michelle Gellar could easily have been so much sechsier...

Babysitting the Shameless way: "If they start crying or owt, just stick 'em upstairs". I'll remember that one.

*A book which could so easily be embarrassing, given one of its main themes is a middle-aged man's introduction to E**, but by heavens Hollinghurst can write, and instead it's wonderful, somewhere between Walter Pater and Iris Murdoch but a little more human than either.

**Reading this back, honesty compels me to admit that I am in no position to talk given I'm now ineluctably 'late twenties' and have never tried it myself.

Date: 2005-01-19 12:04 pm (UTC)
innerbrat: (sex)
From: [personal profile] innerbrat
Though the scene in which Kirstin Dunst is tied up by dolls with the voices of Christina Ricci and Sarah Michelle Gellar could easily have been so much sechsier...

Thank you for the mental image, dear. I'll treasure that. :)

Date: 2005-01-19 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I'm sure you will!

Date: 2005-01-19 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
I do agree with you re Tate Britain.
The Tate Modern is TOO BIG.
But the nice Tate Liverpool is juuuuust right.

Date: 2005-01-19 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
But The Real Slim Tatey *used* to be just right!

NuTate's problem isn't the size (the turbine hall's about the only good bit) but that most of that work has no bite once it's surrounded by other modern art and sealed off from actually confronting anyone.

Date: 2005-01-19 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
Ok, maybe i didn't mean too big in the "get the tape measure out, lets walk round the building and see how long it takes us" sense, but instead yes - what you said there.

Tate Liverpool is still perfect though. Apart form the fact that it's in Liverpool and not Belfarce, which still necessitates Easyjet and the unspeakble Speke Airport (now John Lennon international, wiht the motto "Above us only sky" - yeughhhh).

Date: 2005-01-19 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
tied up by dolls - grebt, i'll reserve that one for a later nightmare.
dolls... *shudder*

Date: 2005-01-19 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com
see that just gives me an ace mental image...I am wrong and bad aren't I?

I am suprised my Barbie's never got their own back on me for turning them into lesbians and making them have bondage sechs...*whistles*

Date: 2005-01-19 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
You are wrong and bad, but so are your dolls, which was why they were happy with the new life you gave them...

Date: 2005-01-19 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com
YAY! I am pleased!

Date: 2005-01-19 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
dolls scare me baaaad.
our barbies were always psycho killers, heh.
little girls rarely play 'normal' barbies. at least none that i knew!

Date: 2005-01-19 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com
see i did actually turn into a lesbian interested in bondage. Does this mean you are about to kill? *hides*

Date: 2005-01-19 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Mmmm, killer bongdage lesbians...

Sorry, what was the question?

Date: 2005-01-19 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
ah man, what have i started????

oh yes. dolls = scary.

Date: 2005-01-19 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com
You wouldn't *really* like it if I killed people...would you? ;P

Date: 2005-01-19 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Depends who you killed. As long as I thought they deserved it (which still leaves you at least three billion possible targets), then of course I would!

Date: 2005-01-19 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentbec.livejournal.com
possibly, but if i do it will be someone peonic and evil, so you all are safe :)

Date: 2005-01-19 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Hurrah for peonslaying!

Date: 2005-01-19 12:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-01-19 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelv.livejournal.com
Oooh I love Small Soldiers! I wish my toys were real. But not evil. Or at least, if evil, then treat me as their leader.

Date: 2005-01-19 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yes, having a battallion of Commando Elite at one's disposal would have definite advantages.

Date: 2005-01-19 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kendall-lacey.livejournal.com
i was just about to write 'ooh, Small Soldiers is a me and angel film,' but she beat me to it.
anyway, Small Soldiers is a me and angel film, we watched it on Upper Street. sweet, sweet Upper Street.

x

Date: 2005-01-19 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelv.livejournal.com
um, that isn't quite what I was saying. But it is a good film, yep!

escape from our history

Date: 2005-01-19 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kendall-lacey.livejournal.com
i wasnt saying ANYTHING, i just meant Small Soldiers reminds me of the fact that me and you saw it on upper st. which we did. and it was good. sorry.

Date: 2005-01-19 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklepbass.livejournal.com
apparently, it's a well-known fact that art galleries are the best place to pick up ladies. or men. or both.
never worked for me, though.

Date: 2005-01-19 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
But it's not just that it has never happened to me - I've never seen it happening to anyone! And I go to galleries loads! I feel cheated.

Date: 2005-01-19 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
Yes, but with respect Bazza, you are physically repulsive.

Date: 2005-01-19 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yes but even if your calumny had any basis in fact, it wouldn't explain why "I've never seen it happening to anyone", would it?

Date: 2005-01-19 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
Obviously your mere presence is enough to kill off any cruisey vibe.

Yuck, I hate the word "vibe"

Date: 2005-01-19 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Hah! Hoist by your own vibe-petard!

Date: 2005-01-19 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 666inmyheart.livejournal.com
You're listening to Hood. You get a big Cay seal of approval.

xx

Date: 2005-01-19 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yes, it was based largely on your recommendations that I blagged it. It sounds nothing like anything else I know, which is itself fairly unusual these days.

Date: 2005-01-19 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 666inmyheart.livejournal.com
Well. I love them and would go to Leeds and hunt them down and marry them if I could, and they didn't all have such funny names like Cris(is).

xx

Date: 2005-01-19 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martylog.livejournal.com
Your pachydermal memory never ceases to amaze me. I don't recall ever recommending the film to you (although I'm not surprised I did, as it's a good flick). How did the conversation lead up to that? When was it?

The 'machine' line is indeed great, and it's very likely that I would have quoted it at the time.

Date: 2005-01-19 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
It was ages ago, possibly in discussion of Gremlins and how I'd never felt moved to bother with Small Soldiers.

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