Call me vanilla but maiming? Not sechsy.

[alexsarll]

I had been warned that Baise-Moi wasn't very good, and indeed it wasn't - another in that ignoble line of films which show vast amounts of sechs but have to make it all deeply unsechsy in order that they be considered Art rather than P0rn (see also: Intimacy). However! Unlike many French films, which make their point and then carry on for another interminable hour, it is only 73 minutes long, and for that alone deserves commendation.

At one point I was obliged to pause it that I might make a doorstep cash handover to a New Labour aide. Foolishly, I neglected to photograph this - there goes my lucrative deal with the Mail.

And to celebrate the bounty of the LJfairy...

[Poll #416438]

Comments

[p-dan-tic.livejournal.com]

dude while it's not my favorate spiderman 2 > spiderman by a very large way

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

Maybe it was just that I saw the first on the big screen, or that I'd seen other films in the interim whose CGI raised the bar, but I thought the first was flawed and the second was basically terrible unless Doc Ock was onscreen.

[wardytron.livejournal.com]

How many of those films have General Zod in them? There you go then, problem solved.

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

It's definitely a strong contender. I've not seen it since childhood but it used to terrify me.

[p-dan-tic.livejournal.com]

also blade *could* be considered a superhero.....

as could elektra.....

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

I enjoy the Blade films, but I think of them more as horror/action than superheroics (I almost didn't include Hellboy on the same grounds). And Elektra's a ninja more than a super(anti)heroine.

[london-imp.livejournal.com]

You missed out BatWoman! And Spiderman 2 is ace.

[london-imp.livejournal.com]

I don't think I meant to vote for Spiderman, what a fool am I.

[beingjdc.livejournal.com]

Call me vanilla but maiming? Not sechsy.

Hippy.

My favourite Superhero Movie is The Greatest Story Ever Told.

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

I was actually expecting the first bit of genre quibbling to be Matrix-related, so well done on confounding me.

[jamesward.livejournal.com]

Superman 3

[darkmarcpi.livejournal.com]

Wot no Superman 4? I remember the baddie in it being exceptionally gay, but then I suppose Zod and co did wear all black PVC uniforms and thus win that contest.

[darkmarcpi.livejournal.com]

I haven't seen about half of those, actually.

(Supergirl might genuinely have got my vote purely for the Peter Cook factor, actually.)

The one that annoyed me the most was X-Men, actually. I thought it was a decent enough film, competent in the right places and well-made. But it seemed so utterly formulaic and predictable to the point of laziness, didn't give you characters who you particulary cared for, and the convenient wait-for-the-sequel ending, just sucked, frankly.

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

"It'll be different this time, Erik. They've evolved."
"Yes. Into us."

Right there I knew that they'd done those characters better than they'd ever been done. And yes, the plot was fairly formulaic but it was the formula reduced to its bare essentials and then turned up to 11.

And surely the second film is far more blatant in its sequel set-up?

[verlaine.livejournal.com]

The Incredibles? Ptu, ptu, ptui. I'm glad some of us have chosen the actual correct answer though.

[violentbec.livejournal.com]

that reminds me i have to google electrowoman & dynagirl.
i'm glad the important stuff remains my brane.

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

Found owt yet?

[azureskies.livejournal.com]

The first Superman film is clearly the best superhero movie, as it's the only one that had all the elements in place - impeccable casting, an appropriate sense of awe and wonder that goes right back to the opening credits and score; and, as my mum always points out - how many other superhero films have a script by Mario Puzo?

Its own sequel runs it close, but I don't think it's quite as good - despite the fanboy wonder of the big ol' fight scene. X2 is superb, and despite being a bit long and trying to cram too much in (the Weapon X stuff shouldn't have been in there, they only did it because Wolverine was so popular in the first one), is easily the best of the current era, although I think Spidey 2 runs it close, I don't care what you say. Burton's two Batman films are fantastic. Hellboy is probably the most faithful comic book movie I've ever seen, although I think Sin City will probably rob it of that title. The Incredibles was wonderful, and Mystery Men criminally underrated. Which just leaves Hulk and Daredevil, both of which have their moments but aren't really worthy of consideration in such a poll.

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

My main problem with Superman is that essentially, I don't like the character. It does well in spite of that, but some of the effects have dated rather.

Surely the Weapon X stuff is integral - Stryker's the main villain!

I will be amazed if Hulk or Daredevil get any votes, though I do quite like both.

[icecoldinalex.livejournal.com]

superman 2.

there is no argument.

[catbo.livejournal.com]

I watched Batman Returns again the other night. it's most definitely the best. with many other honorable mentions, obviously. but it's the best.

I am so sure of this I have 'friended' everyone I didn't know who is of the same opinion. yes. sorry - I'm sure I'll try not to bother you, but you have good taste so...

[butterflycaught.livejournal.com]

there seems to be some kind of mistake in that you have missed off batman forever and batman&robin.

an accident, i'm sure?

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

I don't mind the former, but is it really anyone's favourite?

As for the latter...I believe I expressed my feelings about that on here some months ago. But it still amazes me how many nerd-frotting side-references they managed to include (Fluoronic Man! Bane!) and yet *still* be so rubbish.

[willlowlove.livejournal.com]

I want to bring up Unbreakable as a unique perspective on the superhero genre which I liked even though it's not particularly well made.
'Here's my sixpence which always trumps your 2 cents :P'

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

Yes, I think that is the gravest omission from my selection. It's the one Shyamalan film I can rewatch repeatedly.

[renegadechic.livejournal.com]

what about the powerpuff girls!

cha!

Nicky xxx

[kiss-me-quick.livejournal.com]

I've only seen five of those. It was a close call between The Incredibles and Other. And since you didn't include a text box, I'm not going to tell you what other is.

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

After an early dalliance with textboxes, I realised they kill comment counts. Is it the Wonder Woman pilot?

[my-name-is-anna.livejournal.com]

you know, i have only seen two of those films - superman and batman.

[ksta.livejournal.com]

hurrah the correct film wins. Hurrah for men and women in tight black rubber!

[invadergaz.livejournal.com]

Should we go to Torture Gardens with respective Wifes somepoint soon then?

[invadergaz.livejournal.com]

As willlowlove and myself found out last night, nothing beatsHeavy Metal for intricate plot-weaving and storytelling.

Not.

[thermaland.livejournal.com]

I haven't seen Intimacy or any of those French naughties, but I might go see Michael Winterbottom's sechs film when/if it is released.

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

NB I exclude Irreversible from that diss because that one is genuinely harrowing, as opposed to simply sordid.

Winterbottom...I don't know. I think our worlds only really intersected on 24HPP.

[okborednow.livejournal.com]

flashgordon

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

That's a great film but it's SF, not superheroes!
(And yes, I know superheroes are to some extent an SF subgenre, and I know Adam Strange hangs with superheroes and has a very similar story to Flash. But still)

[kanaeda.livejournal.com]

Worryingly i've seen all of those at least twice. My favourite is superman 2 by a long way, none of the others have someone throw a bus at superman.

[barrysarll.livejournal.com]

You mean I'm not the only one who's seen The Return of Captain Invincible? I was beginning to worry!