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Olympic bids 'up for sale' is another example of NOT NEWS. 'Olympic Bids Model Of Probity' would be news; it would also be a lie, of course. And the Manhunt witch-hunt is another classic example of the British kneejerk, just like the post-Dunblane firearms laws and the Dangerous Dogs Act. A 17-year old had an 18-rated game; thus, the extant laws were breached. Enforce them properly, don't impose some ill thought-out, Draconian piece of quickfire lunacy. Computer games are an art, albeit one in its infancy; the last thing they need is a Wertham to slow them down like comics got slowed down. You don't censor art, ever; you can maybe age-restrict it. And computer games already are age-restricted. Move along, you ghastly little neo-Puritans, nothing to see here. You don't like that, fvck off to Iran to be with your own kind; you should have a decade or two before the good guys win there, and then maybe you can relocate to Daily Mail Island.

The Canonbury does have a lovely garden, but gets docked a large number of points for the shortage of a) cider and b) straws. Also, the insect life there seems peculiarly fond of me, a point brought home to everyone else when I eventually shouted in exasperation "my eyelashes are not vegetation". Also, I had forgotten how strange Pimm's drunk is. It only seems to apply in half the areas normal drunk does, making it a much lighter experience. Has no one ever done a proper study of how different boozes produce different forms of drunkenness, and if not, why not?

Date: 2004-07-30 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 666inmyheart.livejournal.com
I think it all depends on what areas the Pimms affected there Barrington.

You were on top form last night. I applaud thee.

xx

Date: 2004-07-30 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Eyethankyew.

Date: 2004-07-30 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suicideally.livejournal.com
I've never noticed Pimm's Drunk to be different from general Spirits Drunk which I generally find a lighter experience than Pints Drunk - pints drunk I fall over, spirits drunk I stay fairly upright until the point I pass out. Mixed Drunk is worse than Pints Drunk though. Red Wine Drunk is OK but I get sleepy. Worst is White Wine Or Brandy Drunk, where I get aggressive.
Of course, all this drunk was just in the name of science...

Date: 2004-07-30 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
I think different drinks affect different people in different ways. I don't think there is a science to it (thankfully, i have always been a happy drunk)

Date: 2004-07-30 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
There was a particular alcopop sold in the Bless in Derby which made everyone depressed - that was when I first realised Science! should be applied to the topic.

Date: 2004-07-30 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
are you sure it was the alcopop and not just because you were all in Derby? Maybe it was some kind of truth drug...

Date: 2004-07-30 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guntrip.livejournal.com
"Leblanc had savagely beaten his victim with a claw hammer and stabbed him repeatedly after luring him to a local park."

Possibly, just -possibly-, this kid was a little messed up to start with. Anyone else think that?

Sheesh.

Date: 2004-07-30 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's like when Clockwork Orange was withdrawn, one of the triggers was a bunch of Millwall fans kicking someone in while wearing bowler hats and singing 'Singing in the Rain'.

THEY WERE MILLWALL FANS. THEY WOULD HAVE KICKED HIM IN ANYWAY. THE FILM ONLY INSPIRED THE HATS AND SONG WHICH I VERY MUCH DOUBT WERE HIS MAIN COMPLAINT.

Date: 2004-07-30 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
but Kubrick withdrew that himself, didn't he? I mean - his film, his choice.

Date: 2004-07-30 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yes, but mainly because he was fed up reading idiotic complaints in the press. Essentially it was a 30-year sulk.

Date: 2004-07-30 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guntrip.livejournal.com
Well, I don't know. I played Night Trap on the Mega CD when I was 11, and even now, I still feel the need to trap young, nubile women in a house and set vicious traps for them.

COMPUTER GAMES: IF YOU PLAY THEM, YOU WILL GO BLIND!

Date: 2004-07-30 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, but I get that and I never played Night Trap.

Date: 2004-07-30 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guntrip.livejournal.com
It was over-rated. You had to SAVE the women. Missed opportunities..

Date: 2004-07-30 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
Have you read Screen Violence (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0747530939/qid=1091189321/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-9049733-2872634). I started it just now, and though I've only read the introduction, Karl French and Martin Amis make this point.

I'm trying to resist the temptation to read the John Waters essay. Must wait. Save until last.

Date: 2004-07-30 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I haven't read that but once you're finished I would very much like to.

Date: 2004-07-30 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
I read very slowly and my lips move whilst I do so, but you're welcome to it once I've finished.

Grr...

Date: 2004-07-30 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rentaghost31.livejournal.com
Is there a vast swathe of people somewhere who actually can't separate computer games/tv/music/other art forms from reality, do you think? I mean surely only those with a really low IQ could become confused in this way?

The whole idea of censorship unless it is age-based annoys me greatly. I think it is the fact that some people have to see the item up for censorship to deem it unsuitable. So do they become morally corrupt by doing so? No, I don't think so. So then, how the hell can they justify saying that the rest of us will become morally corrupted by playing/seeing something that they have already looked at?

Re: Grr...

Date: 2004-07-30 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Quite right. The likes of Mary Whitehouse and Andrea Dworkin are implicitly claiming that they are stronger than the poor imbeciles they have sworn to protect. Hell, I'm happy to state quite explicitly that I'm better than the peons who make up most of the populace, and I don't think I have the right to dictate their cultural consumption, so just how fvcking arrogant must these censors be to outstrip me so?

Re: Grr...

Date: 2004-07-30 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 666inmyheart.livejournal.com
Yes dear, but have you actually seen Andrea Dworkin? Frankly I wouldn't like to meet her down a dark alleyway.

Dworkin annoys me because she takes the sanctimonious line with everything. She doesn't want people to think for themselves and come to conscious decisions, she just appears to actively want to batter people into keeping with her line of thinking. The woman scares me.

xx

Re: Grr...

Date: 2004-07-30 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I was particularly impressed that her book P0rnography managed to ignore the existence of its hugely popular gay variant because it would wreck her idiot theory.

Re: Grr...

Date: 2004-07-30 03:14 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-07-30 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
The Dangerous Dogs Act didn't go nearly far enough, since it didn't accept the obvious fact that dogs are by definition dangerous. As for computer games, [insert Pacman joke that I've forgotten the wording of here].

Date: 2004-07-30 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I bet you were even scared of the bochon frise in Shrek 2, you big wuss.

Date: 2004-07-30 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
Is that a fillum, then?

Date: 2004-07-30 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] my-name-is-anna.livejournal.com
alex???
hello!

the canonbury - as in opposite the canonbury tower in islington?
i so - it is right nearby the cutest public toilet i've ever seen.
same side of the road, on the other end of that block.
it looks like where a hobbit would go to the loo.

it's all locked up and disused now, but go have a look if you go to the canonbury again, and think of joe orton

Date: 2004-07-30 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Hello! Yes, that's the one and I have seen that very convenience. I love Canonbury as an area. Except when one is lost there, hungover and trapped by an Arsenal victory parade, of course.

Date: 2004-07-30 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] my-name-is-anna.livejournal.com
it's funny, isn't it? and the doorway's always full of leaves, whatever season it is.
maybe it's really another route into narnia - careful you don't wander through there after one pimms too many!

canonbury is beautiful, and arsenal victory parades don't happen very often

Date: 2004-07-30 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephens.livejournal.com
That whole game violence issue is quite ridiculous. As usual the Daily Mail is going hilariously overboard. Violent movies should not get banned, just becaus some psycho has done a copycat killing. It's their psychotic nature and not the film that is responsible. It should be no different for any other medium.

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