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I've always been fond of Switzerland. I think it's the same logic as decides my favourite dinosaurs, the armoured and pointy triceratops and ankylosaurus. They don't start fights but if anyone else is fool enough to do so, then they'll fvcking well finish them. I also like the Swiss tradition of direct rather than representative democracy, and their landscape. And one of my first crushes was on a Swiss family friend.
All that said, even if tonight's footballism was against a team representing the shortlived Nazi-Soviet Pact, I'd still hope England lost.

(frozen)

Date: 2004-06-17 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] culturedgoat.livejournal.com
Not to mention chocolate! And bank accounts that baddies always use!

xxx

Date: 2004-06-17 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
dinosaurs and anti-footballism!! if the footballist come for you with pitchforks you have just earned eternal sanctuary in kentish town!!

Date: 2004-06-17 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wardytron.livejournal.com
Personally, I'm a Syracosaurus man - like, a Triceratops, but slightly more elaborate:



What fights have the Swiss ever fvcking well finished?

Date: 2004-06-17 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
People very seldom even try to start on them because they are FVCKING HARDCORE.
Styracosaurus does rock, as do all the other variants on that template, but for me Triceratops will always be the classic.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wardytron.livejournal.com
What's that tossy little one though? Protoceratops, they weren't much cop, were they.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
they were also ace, and i claim my five english pounds.

that one's legs are in the wrong place though... spazzosaur!

Date: 2004-06-17 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, well he has no horns at all, and frankly that's just shoddy. So long as there are horns, on that basic model, I'm not too fussed about the details.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
but he has a shield, and that's one up on peopleoids - i do see your point though... not quite as superhero as the others, he's more a sidekick...

Date: 2004-06-17 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
And all sidekicks are sh1t.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
aye, but one up from 'citizen'...

Date: 2004-06-17 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
ah, the styracosaurus, marvellous...
do carry on, you lovely people!

Date: 2004-06-17 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com
This is really a 'What's your favourite dinosaur?' post, isn't it?

You see I always liked the dinosaur formally known as Diplodocus because, well, they were dinosaur shaped and they proved Ann Elk's dinosaur theory...but I secretly liked Ankylosauruses because they were well 'ard.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
the diplodocus was clearly the best.
they had a penchant for synthesisers, apparently...

Date: 2004-06-17 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wardytron.livejournal.com
The Dimetrodon was good as well, wasn't it. When it wasn't looking you could run up and spray graffitti on its sail. Ha! In your face, Dimetrodon!

Date: 2004-06-17 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Not technically a dinosaur, though. Even dinosaurs thought it was a bit old-fashioned.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
still ripped it off though, didn't they...?

Date: 2004-06-17 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wardytron.livejournal.com
I don't trust any dinosaurs that weren't in the books I had when I was 8. Spinosaurus, Velociraptor, those things that were bigger than a Brachiosaurus - johnny-come-latelies, the lot of them.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
the velociraptors were artistic license, way too big, the others are all kosher, honest guv!

Date: 2004-06-17 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com
I know - I considered myself quite the dinosaur expert in 1982 and in my time away from the field, they invented a whole load of new ones.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com
Awww yeah - I had an orange rubber version from Swansea Museum. Funny. I must have been to that museum about 8 times before I was 10 but I canot for the life of me remember what was in there other than the gift shop that sold 10p dinosaurs.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
i have the very same rubber dimetrodon! his fin's a bit floppy now, but he's essentially a good chap!
man, swansea museum was great for toy dinosaurs, only reason i ever went on holiday...

Date: 2004-06-17 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com
Yeah - I'mm looking for a summer holiday on the same basis at the moment, but you can only search on criteria like hotel rating and price, not quality of toy dinosaurs...

Date: 2004-06-17 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
holiday firms are missing a trick there, close-minded buffoons!

Date: 2004-06-17 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
If I knew what elements of my posts provoked comment...it would probably do me no good whatsoever. But in any case, I don't.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com


you couldn't have predicted this with me on your friends list? you're losing your touch, sir...

Date: 2004-06-17 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
I don't understand why non-football fans want England to lose tonight. I don't like football. I don't care who wins.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Because the sooner we're out of this ghastly tournament, the less we'll have to hear about it, and the fewer lairy peons we'll have cluttering the streets.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
I don't understand why people can't just ignore things they don't like. I haven't really noticed any lairy peons cluttering up the street.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
Yeah, so if you'd been on that tram in Croydon which the scum piled onto and started trying to dismantle, you wouldn't have noticed that?
Sure, I can ignore Big Brother just fine. But people don't congregate to watch that in pubs near my house, spill out noisy and looking for a fight, and then vom on my doorstep.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesward.livejournal.com
But I wasn't on that tram in Croydon which the scum piled onto and started trying to dismantle, so I can ignore it, see?

Date: 2004-06-17 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelv.livejournal.com
TRAMS IN CROYDON ARE ALWAYS LIKE THAT.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecoldinalex.livejournal.com
because we're twisted and bitter, and we want the people that held us down to suffer, as their pointless little obsession crumbles before their very eyes once again!
feel the dejection, sportfvcks!!!

not that i'm bothered, like...

Date: 2004-06-17 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com
I'd absolutely live in Switzerland if I could afford it.

Date: 2004-06-17 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiny-tear.livejournal.com
my sister is moving to switzerland, i should like them as well

Date: 2004-06-17 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fifilabelle.livejournal.com
No offence here...ok some offence. But I find that people who relish in seeing their own country lose at football tend to be the people who are losers in their own lives. And obviously not content with the prospect of being looked down upon as a loser, it would be rather convenient if everyone else were losers too. I really don't understand it, nay, I find it makes me extremely angry. So I'm going to go drink some booze and swear about it elsewhere.

Date: 2004-06-17 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com
What does it mean when you just don't care about football?

Date: 2004-06-17 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fifilabelle.livejournal.com
Nothing, means you just don't care. In which case you can happily ignore it and get on with your own life. Which hopefully involves lots of booze on such a fine evening.

Date: 2004-06-17 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I quite fancy a pint tonight. But I can't have one because any pub with TVs will be full of bellowing oafs in wigs and facepaint, and even if I go to another one, I'll bump into hordes of the b@st@rds on the way home.

It's not that I want us to lose per se; I just want us not to be in it, so it no longer impinges on my life, and that's the quickest and simplest way. I'd be equally happy to see us thrown out for the fans' misbehaviour.

Ever since I was a child and the cartoons would get cancelled if football overran, I have hated its dominance of English life.

Date: 2004-06-17 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fifilabelle.livejournal.com
Those are not England fans. They are English tw@ts, the kind who go and start fights on the Algarve every summer. They don't go to the games - in Lisbon on Sunday everyone was dancing with the French fans after the match according to an array of news reports. All the trouble has kicked off 200 miles away from the football, and I don't see how penalising the FA and penalising proper England fans will help that.

The thing about the bellowing oafs is that they generally mean well. An oaf in a wig or an England shirt isn't an instant football hooligan, quite the opposite - they're probably a little insecure like the rest of us, only be afraid when you see a Burberry baseball cap. But all said and done perhaps there is a reason you can embrace it, as there are pitifully few times the English come together in a near-orgy of community spirit than football matches. Unlike those pr!cks in the Algarve, football tends to bring out the best in the rest of us, every matchday it's practically a nationwide love-in, chatting and hugging and kissing complete strangers. I'd have thought that was right up your street ;)

Date: 2004-06-18 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrysarll.livejournal.com
I like moments of nationwide unity as much as the next man - that extended Jubilee weekend was ace - unless they involve sport. Hell, the sports I can vaguely appreciate, cricket and tennis, are the ones which are far too genteel ever to provoke anything like that. Because I find that even when a large crowd of footballists are jolly, it's still mob jollity.

Oh, and the hooligans being sent down in this morning's paper were all hair-dyed and red/white colour coded clothes.

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